The only thing that gives me hope is that they are so desperate and committing such atrocities in plain sight that more people are turning away. Whether that’s enough is the billion dollar question.
Not me! I'm not turning away. I'm in my 60s! And I'm joining!
And after they accept me, I'm gonna tie my fellow ICE agents at their ankles and dump them onto the street just for a laugh or two. You know, just as a harmless practical joke.
I'll blame my stroke when Kristi comes after me. "The stroke made me do it! I didn't know what I was doing! I hope they're all okay."
66 over here—I’m going with you Charles. Hell, I make $17.50/hour at my part-time Lowe’s cashier job. Before I was downsized from the LV newspaper 13 years ago at 54, I made almost six figures with all my benefits. It’ll be good to get back to making that kind of money while fighting fascists. 😈
I guess if they get convicted of violating someone’s rights they can plead both ignorance from failing to complete high school and also be prosecuted as minors.
What if Putz is out of office and his successor is a Democrat and we have the U.S. version of those German concentration camp guards who were prosecuted decades after the war — only sooner?
So far, there have been a lot of people who have been recording these thugs, and they outnumber them and have lived to tell the tale. I'm saying that laying hands on the bullies will put them at a much higher risk of having that happen, because they will have then broken the law themselves.
I read a while back that people in LA were using glitter bombs on ICE agents and thought it was a brilliant idea to out them: that stuff is hard to get off, especially if it's stuck to hair and sweaty skin. Does anyone know if this is still being done?
Thanks for sharing this tactic. I think even if ludicrous sharing resistance tacts is sooo important because whats being done on the East coast may be different than what folks across the country are doing so brain storming about these ideas is great. Here...Traveling Wilburys Lyric may apply, "In Jersey everything is legal as long as you dont get caught." Americans in the Revolutionary War changed military plans as they learned through huge losses, the great effectiveness of camouflage from Native Americans. Militia & regulars switched red uniforms to blend with thrur surroundings. 🤔 little old lady with a cane, all bent over shuffling by....with a powered cane full of...glitter. Still in initial stage of contemplating.🤣
Hi Annie. Another Annie here. And I am a little old lady with a big voice. You make good observations. I figure that if I ever find myself in a situation where ICE is confronting me, I'll tell the people around me to get their cameras ready because I intend to yank the mask of any agent close enough to touch me. I kind of like the glitter idea, too. Call it self-protection, because it is.
Pretty dramatic rendering, kd. This is where white privilege comes in, along with well-planned circumstances. They don't like publicity, and that's exactly what we want to give them. So we set up the circumstances to provide it. A yanked down mask (little old ladies are offering their services) while cameras record and lots of witnesses, including discreet media. ICE is becoming aware that part of the reason they are having trouble recruiting is because of the publicity exposing them. We need to make it even harder.
You know they will try to charge someone yanking down a mask with a felony but as we have seen with the sandwich thrower, its doubtful they would get an indictment from a grand jury.
You do understand that just as the 3rd Reich was fueled by ubiquitous Pervitin, the "meth crisis" didn't go away ... it's now the regime and its base. Recall puppy-killer Noem's state slogan: "Meth ... We're on it"
Nazi recruitment posters. No attempt even to update the art deco graphic conventions of the 30s. Kristi Noem seems to be creating her own Hitlerjugend. Will the Bund Deutscher Mädel be next? Noem herself could easily be a founding member, even though she’s not as young as she pretends to be. Karoline Leavitt would only need to exchange her cross pendant for a swastika, but Pam Bondi would clearly need a facelift, and a bit of peroxide on her eyebrows to match the hairdo.
I figure a lot of military members will opt to join up because pay in the military is so bad, the soldiers with a wife and kids have to get them on food stamps.
But while there's the big show of all of the bumbling incompetence by TRUMP'S cabinet members, and while that takes up what oxygen is left over during the Epstein saga, Project 2025 and their guys keep on rolling full speed ahead in the background where NO ONE is looking. THEY are the real threat to our, and the world's, democracy.
So very true. I’ve been saying this for years and now it can’t be unseen: Stephen Miller, the Heritage Foundation, and the endless funding from Citizens United have been cementing their influence while the orange meat puppet performs an array of distractions. Even the once reliable safety net of Checks and Balances has joined the [seeming?] juggernaut.
How utterly ironic the Clarence Thomas is helping to make it happen.
Yes, I've been asking for a long time when they're going to revisit Loving, as long as they're trying to drag everyone else back to the 1930s or '40s. Is he willing to give up his vote, too?
That will be fun to watch. I guess his vote totally depends on how he views his wife, how well they get along, and if there are enough votes to pass even if he votes with the "liberals".
And that his wife is actually trans. She’s gone. Clarence is a victim, but he inherits everything including box seats at the [formerly] Kennedy Center for the Arts.
The good Jews were the ones that didn't go to the gas chamber. They ratted out their fellow inmates. They dug the pits where the corpses from the gas chambers went. Then they either got a bullet in the head, or were shoved into the pits and buried alive. Yeah. The Good Jews.
I meant people who were treated like Emil Maurice.
"To Himmler's annoyance, Hitler stood by his old friend.[18] In a secret letter written on 31 August 1935, Hitler compelled Himmler to make an exception for Maurice and his brothers, who were informally declared "Honorary Aryans" and allowed to stay in the SS."
Sorry. You should have just said that. I've never heard of Maurice so I couldn't possibly known of any other "Good Jews." All I know is that everyone in my family other than my pregnant grandmother, died in Auschwitz. And according to the folks that ran THAT place, "the only good Jew was a dead Jew." So, that's where I'M coming from.
And they may get more veterans than they should because these sons of ...... have cut services to the men and women out of the military who might be more at risk for bad behavior because of untreated mental health issues.
I can think of a sentence where "better" and "Nazis" can definitely be used together:
The BETTER thing for democracy is the beat NAZIS senseless wherever you run across them. After all, wherever they march, they'll be outnumbered 100 to 1. The problem is, the 100 always seems to forget that.
Other than not wanting to condone violence and hoping to high heaven that it doesn't continue to get worse AND widen, I'd think your particular example isn't exactly logical. Wouldn't someone have to HAVE sense before you could beat it out of them? 🤨
High-school dropouts, ex-military (honorably or otherwise discharged), cops and sheriffs' deputies fired from previous postings for abuse of office...there's a whole universe of rabble and human flotsam just itching to put on the tactical vest, face mask, side-arms and semi-automatic rifle, and get out on the streets to go all Brownshirt on brown people. And get good pay for doing it...MAGA!
I wouldnt celebrate just yet. Just means boomers will be lining up soon. I read Dean Cain signed up and he doesnt realize his superman character is an immigrant. Now lets see how long before the doofus mel gibson, jon voight, the pedo james woods, stallone etc., sign up
Thank you, Jay, for once again delving deeply into severe and frightening changes which will bring even more harm to our families, neighbors and friends. Thank you for your courage and determination to bring us the truth...
Hard to understand how there can be anyone in this country who doesn't see what's going on. Yes, some do and are still cheerleading him, because they are awful people, too. Some people who supported him seem to be coming out of the fog, but I don't know if even all of the people who sat it out in November because Kamala wasn't perfect are paying enough attention now.
It's nothing a million armed and determined anti-fascist Americans can't handle, once they decide to. You think ICE recruiting is slow now, it's going to really taper off if they start shooting people, and we know where that goes. And they will, it's only a matter of time. The Trump regime has committed themselves to a path they can't escape.
That crossed my mind. Also thought about writers and reporters infiltrating. And, we know how trump is about paying his contractors, does anyone actually believe he intends to keep promises about pay and benefits?
Sorry, Sam, Not going there. Our successful anti-fascist movement will be unarmed and strictly non-violent. Otherwise we become just like our enemies.
Take a walk through human history. Violence always generates more violence. We have power that will not be overcome by this regime’s attempts to suppress us.
You completely misunderstand me, and you misunderstand the circumstances. I'm not calling for an initiation of violence, but the opposite. THEY will initiate the violence. They aren't going to give you a choice. When they have initiated enough violence against peaceful resistance then things will just spin out of control, I'm just warning you. You may want to plan for that possibility.
It has been said that at the great turning points in history everyone is ultimately faced with the decision to be a villain, a hero, or a coward. It will be one of those three. When the time comes you will choose.
Gosh, Sam, thank you for correcting my misunderstanding. When I read "It's nothing a million armed and determined anti-fascist Americans can't handle, once they decide to", it sure sounded like you think this is the solution.
I fully agree with you that the path the regime is following will lead (and already has led) to violence, and that the violence is likely to escalate. I also agree that we are all faced with the choice between villain, hero, and coward.
And yet, you seem to be equating the heroes with the ones who start shooting back. The historical record shows that sustained, non-violent, strategic non-compliance in response to a dictator demands great personal courage, and is more likely to be successful.
May you and I and all our peers show the courage demanded by the magnitude of the threat we face.
Yeah, I will suit myself, but thanks for letting me know you will let me. And I have no idea why you think anyone is trying to get you to shoot someone. They aren't.
The only thing that gives me hope is that they are so desperate and committing such atrocities in plain sight that more people are turning away. Whether that’s enough is the billion dollar question.
Not me! I'm not turning away. I'm in my 60s! And I'm joining!
And after they accept me, I'm gonna tie my fellow ICE agents at their ankles and dump them onto the street just for a laugh or two. You know, just as a harmless practical joke.
I'll blame my stroke when Kristi comes after me. "The stroke made me do it! I didn't know what I was doing! I hope they're all okay."
There ARE advantages to getting older.
That is so awesome! We will all support you if they sue. Remember to cover up any identifying tattoos
Lol. I don't have any. I'll get one that says: "Elbows 🇨🇦 Up!"
66 over here—I’m going with you Charles. Hell, I make $17.50/hour at my part-time Lowe’s cashier job. Before I was downsized from the LV newspaper 13 years ago at 54, I made almost six figures with all my benefits. It’ll be good to get back to making that kind of money while fighting fascists. 😈
Bwahahaha! Beautiful!
"Resist Beautifully" is my motto.
💪🏽
Might be time to start tearing masks off these horrible people, and snapping shots of faces.
I guess if they get convicted of violating someone’s rights they can plead both ignorance from failing to complete high school and also be prosecuted as minors.
Nope. “Just following orders” and if sentenced, immediately pardoned by Putz in Chief. They all terrify me, literally.
What if Putz is out of office and his successor is a Democrat and we have the U.S. version of those German concentration camp guards who were prosecuted decades after the war — only sooner?
But that will get those same people arrested for assault and/or battery, when their phones will be taken and they'll be disappeared.
You act as if they aren't already being arrested and having their phones taken & hacked?
So far, there have been a lot of people who have been recording these thugs, and they outnumber them and have lived to tell the tale. I'm saying that laying hands on the bullies will put them at a much higher risk of having that happen, because they will have then broken the law themselves.
Guess I'll just post to tiktok and facebook while my friends are sent to death camps.
Thanks for the advice.
I read a while back that people in LA were using glitter bombs on ICE agents and thought it was a brilliant idea to out them: that stuff is hard to get off, especially if it's stuck to hair and sweaty skin. Does anyone know if this is still being done?
People are afraid to do that because it could get them arrested and sent to yet another concentration camp.
These are nazis you're fighting against. Do your best.
That happens anyway so at this point might as well.
Let us know how that goes for you.
Thanks for sharing this tactic. I think even if ludicrous sharing resistance tacts is sooo important because whats being done on the East coast may be different than what folks across the country are doing so brain storming about these ideas is great. Here...Traveling Wilburys Lyric may apply, "In Jersey everything is legal as long as you dont get caught." Americans in the Revolutionary War changed military plans as they learned through huge losses, the great effectiveness of camouflage from Native Americans. Militia & regulars switched red uniforms to blend with thrur surroundings. 🤔 little old lady with a cane, all bent over shuffling by....with a powered cane full of...glitter. Still in initial stage of contemplating.🤣
Hi Annie. Another Annie here. And I am a little old lady with a big voice. You make good observations. I figure that if I ever find myself in a situation where ICE is confronting me, I'll tell the people around me to get their cameras ready because I intend to yank the mask of any agent close enough to touch me. I kind of like the glitter idea, too. Call it self-protection, because it is.
Do that, and your guaranteed a very long stint in jail, if you're lucky. A shot in the gut if you're not so lucky.
Pretty dramatic rendering, kd. This is where white privilege comes in, along with well-planned circumstances. They don't like publicity, and that's exactly what we want to give them. So we set up the circumstances to provide it. A yanked down mask (little old ladies are offering their services) while cameras record and lots of witnesses, including discreet media. ICE is becoming aware that part of the reason they are having trouble recruiting is because of the publicity exposing them. We need to make it even harder.
BRILLIANT!! Count me in, then!
You know they will try to charge someone yanking down a mask with a felony but as we have seen with the sandwich thrower, its doubtful they would get an indictment from a grand jury.
Blood/drug tests for all of them. Fingerprints and background checks.
Most of them will already have fingerprints on file with law enforcement.
You do understand that just as the 3rd Reich was fueled by ubiquitous Pervitin, the "meth crisis" didn't go away ... it's now the regime and its base. Recall puppy-killer Noem's state slogan: "Meth ... We're on it"
Jennifer: I don’t think turning away is enough anymore.
No, it never was. I meant magas are now turning away.
Ah, I read it differently, sorry.
:). Amen, sister!
This is just horrific!
The new South Park is about this, perfectly timed. It's brilliant!
Sickening. Terrifying.
I’m so glad my parents aren’t alive to see this. They lived through WWII. WWII was NOT that long ago! We FOUGHT *AGAINST* THESE SAME FORCES!
They’ve even stolen the poster-art from that era.
Sickening. Terrifying.
I feel the same way. It would break my dad's heart. He never got over the Iran-Contra affair (and that's peanuts compared to this.)
Nazi recruitment posters. No attempt even to update the art deco graphic conventions of the 30s. Kristi Noem seems to be creating her own Hitlerjugend. Will the Bund Deutscher Mädel be next? Noem herself could easily be a founding member, even though she’s not as young as she pretends to be. Karoline Leavitt would only need to exchange her cross pendant for a swastika, but Pam Bondi would clearly need a facelift, and a bit of peroxide on her eyebrows to match the hairdo.
Not only that, but it seems as though they're actively modeling their recruitment efforts on the design/marketing of the Nazis. It's pretty crazy.
I figure a lot of military members will opt to join up because pay in the military is so bad, the soldiers with a wife and kids have to get them on food stamps.
But while there's the big show of all of the bumbling incompetence by TRUMP'S cabinet members, and while that takes up what oxygen is left over during the Epstein saga, Project 2025 and their guys keep on rolling full speed ahead in the background where NO ONE is looking. THEY are the real threat to our, and the world's, democracy.
So very true. I’ve been saying this for years and now it can’t be unseen: Stephen Miller, the Heritage Foundation, and the endless funding from Citizens United have been cementing their influence while the orange meat puppet performs an array of distractions. Even the once reliable safety net of Checks and Balances has joined the [seeming?] juggernaut.
How utterly ironic the Clarence Thomas is helping to make it happen.
And I can't wait to see what Thomas does when the subpreme court has to decide to make interracial marriage illegal.
Yes, I've been asking for a long time when they're going to revisit Loving, as long as they're trying to drag everyone else back to the 1930s or '40s. Is he willing to give up his vote, too?
That will be fun to watch. I guess his vote totally depends on how he views his wife, how well they get along, and if there are enough votes to pass even if he votes with the "liberals".
And that his wife is actually trans. She’s gone. Clarence is a victim, but he inherits everything including box seats at the [formerly] Kennedy Center for the Arts.
Maybe Clarence will disclose that he is only common law
Make an exception for himself. Just as they did for "good" Jews in the Nazi administration.
The good Jews were the ones that didn't go to the gas chamber. They ratted out their fellow inmates. They dug the pits where the corpses from the gas chambers went. Then they either got a bullet in the head, or were shoved into the pits and buried alive. Yeah. The Good Jews.
I meant people who were treated like Emil Maurice.
"To Himmler's annoyance, Hitler stood by his old friend.[18] In a secret letter written on 31 August 1935, Hitler compelled Himmler to make an exception for Maurice and his brothers, who were informally declared "Honorary Aryans" and allowed to stay in the SS."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_Maurice
Sorry. You should have just said that. I've never heard of Maurice so I couldn't possibly known of any other "Good Jews." All I know is that everyone in my family other than my pregnant grandmother, died in Auschwitz. And according to the folks that ran THAT place, "the only good Jew was a dead Jew." So, that's where I'M coming from.
And they may get more veterans than they should because these sons of ...... have cut services to the men and women out of the military who might be more at risk for bad behavior because of untreated mental health issues.
Oh well. All the better for the Nazis, then.
"Better" and "Nazis" shouldn't be in the same sentence, but I get your meaning.
I can think of a sentence where "better" and "Nazis" can definitely be used together:
The BETTER thing for democracy is the beat NAZIS senseless wherever you run across them. After all, wherever they march, they'll be outnumbered 100 to 1. The problem is, the 100 always seems to forget that.
Other than not wanting to condone violence and hoping to high heaven that it doesn't continue to get worse AND widen, I'd think your particular example isn't exactly logical. Wouldn't someone have to HAVE sense before you could beat it out of them? 🤨
Good one!
OK. Beat it INTO them, then. Just do to them what they ARE doing to us, or are WANTING to.
High-school dropouts, ex-military (honorably or otherwise discharged), cops and sheriffs' deputies fired from previous postings for abuse of office...there's a whole universe of rabble and human flotsam just itching to put on the tactical vest, face mask, side-arms and semi-automatic rifle, and get out on the streets to go all Brownshirt on brown people. And get good pay for doing it...MAGA!
This is mortifying.
I wouldnt celebrate just yet. Just means boomers will be lining up soon. I read Dean Cain signed up and he doesnt realize his superman character is an immigrant. Now lets see how long before the doofus mel gibson, jon voight, the pedo james woods, stallone etc., sign up
That is SO WEIRD about Cain. I read that in 2 different sources.
Jay!! Look up the definition of "gestapo". ICE is not gestapo-like, it IS gestapo--exactly!!!
Outside usa:search ghestapo, find magas ice.
American gestapo.
You too can be a racist thug.
You know ICE is in deep shit when South Park mocked them last night
Horrifying. Thank you for illuminating DHS / ICE’s disgusting white supremacist recruiting tactics. 🤯
Agree it’s horrifying, but is it working? Doesn’t seem like it since they keep having to up the ante.
Thank you, Jay, for once again delving deeply into severe and frightening changes which will bring even more harm to our families, neighbors and friends. Thank you for your courage and determination to bring us the truth...
Great post-so hard to believe that is happening in America. People better wake up!
Hard to understand how there can be anyone in this country who doesn't see what's going on. Yes, some do and are still cheerleading him, because they are awful people, too. Some people who supported him seem to be coming out of the fog, but I don't know if even all of the people who sat it out in November because Kamala wasn't perfect are paying enough attention now.
It's nothing a million armed and determined anti-fascist Americans can't handle, once they decide to. You think ICE recruiting is slow now, it's going to really taper off if they start shooting people, and we know where that goes. And they will, it's only a matter of time. The Trump regime has committed themselves to a path they can't escape.
That crossed my mind. Also thought about writers and reporters infiltrating. And, we know how trump is about paying his contractors, does anyone actually believe he intends to keep promises about pay and benefits?
Sorry, Sam, Not going there. Our successful anti-fascist movement will be unarmed and strictly non-violent. Otherwise we become just like our enemies.
Take a walk through human history. Violence always generates more violence. We have power that will not be overcome by this regime’s attempts to suppress us.
You completely misunderstand me, and you misunderstand the circumstances. I'm not calling for an initiation of violence, but the opposite. THEY will initiate the violence. They aren't going to give you a choice. When they have initiated enough violence against peaceful resistance then things will just spin out of control, I'm just warning you. You may want to plan for that possibility.
It has been said that at the great turning points in history everyone is ultimately faced with the decision to be a villain, a hero, or a coward. It will be one of those three. When the time comes you will choose.
Gosh, Sam, thank you for correcting my misunderstanding. When I read "It's nothing a million armed and determined anti-fascist Americans can't handle, once they decide to", it sure sounded like you think this is the solution.
I fully agree with you that the path the regime is following will lead (and already has led) to violence, and that the violence is likely to escalate. I also agree that we are all faced with the choice between villain, hero, and coward.
And yet, you seem to be equating the heroes with the ones who start shooting back. The historical record shows that sustained, non-violent, strategic non-compliance in response to a dictator demands great personal courage, and is more likely to be successful.
May you and I and all our peers show the courage demanded by the magnitude of the threat we face.
But, is that REALLY what history shows? You must be aware of the exceptions to that claim.
Time will tell us how it turns out, for those who live to see it.
Suit yourself, Sam. Whatever happens, I will not be doing any shooting. And we will win.
Yeah, I will suit myself, but thanks for letting me know you will let me. And I have no idea why you think anyone is trying to get you to shoot someone. They aren't.
They deserve a 'Pulp Fiction' standoff with one another,
pistols pointing at each other, no brains involved,
just hatred...