And don't forget when the whole "they're eating the dogs!" thing was happening, JD Vance said very clearly in front of TV cameras that he didn't care if legally documented immigrants were taken away with undocumented ones. They say these things in front of God and everybody and too many people wave it away as if it doesn't matter. This is the epitome of "first they came for the Communists...."
Martin Niemoller's poem First they came for the.... HE wrote it after he realized too late no one was safe from Hitler! IF you weren't 100% loyal, off to the camps you go! T-rump and Miller, AKA Hitler pointy head Goebbel are a history repeat. I just hope they'll be stopped before the rest of the world has to stop us! from annihilating everyone!
Your comment, “…before the rest of the world has to stop us” is fitting for another article I wrote a little while ago, about the U.S. potentially joining a new world “axis” of autocratic superpowers:
That was the truth that JD Vance spoke, he doesn't care if legal immigrants get taken away or citizens, until someone takes his wife and children away.
Would he care? What if it really came down to the kind of ethnic/religious cleansing these people want? Would Vance defend his wife or let her be taken away??
Just a thought. Peter Thiel, tech billionaire, is Vance's mentor and puppet master. Thiel is gay (no problem, people are born as God decides). Vance said he wasn't sure of his sexuality as per his autobiography. Maybe he is involved with Thiel so has no allegiance to his wife?
I would say Vance has no allegiance to anyone but himself, not Thiel, or Usha, not his children. People like Vance are too damaged to care about anyone other than how they can serve them.
Folks we have time to wait . There is ....um .in 2026... maybe an election comin up ......I think ? I hope ....right ? I mean they wont stop elections ....um they cant just do that ....can they ? Well somebody is sure to come help us ? Right ?
The courts and civil service will protect our democracy! MAGA fascists have already fired many government workers, including my partner. DEI is good for the USA and we will keep doing everything we can to undermine Trump and protect the most vulnerable: https://democracydefender2025.substack.com/p/dei-public-servant-fired
My son in law works for the VA. He said last nite that His job is possibly on a list...
With the military, Black & Hispanic citizens, the low income Red state voters ALL being screwed over with the end of DEI jobs, military jobs, & cuts to services people depend on...
Social Security & Medicare/Medicaid is too.
I guess R voters don't have Parents & Grands that survive on what they've Paid for Decades. Get ready to help support them too. Thoughts & empty Prayers...
Also, I read in Robert Hubbell's Substack that Trump included Ability in this category so now it is DEIA. Does that mean no more ADA compliance in buildings? It is frightening to think of the backsliding into fascism that Trump is bringing but there are no surprises. There is no level of ugliness that is beyond him.
The folks in Red states who live on a tight budget should freshen up the guest room now. Family will be moving in. No guest room? No dining room? Well then, set up the living room with bunk beds.
They will need to take care of each other medically because the Medicaid safety net will 1) be underfunded, or… 2) in such disarray that providers will be helpless to serve them.
Keep in mind, hospitals run on razor thin margins. Cash flow is tight. They will be forced to raise fees to big insurance, who in turn will walk away.
Crisis coming very soon in health care funding & delivery. As Leon said, expect pain.
Don’t be so sure courts will save us. Courts do not have an enforcement arm. They rely on our leaders to enforce their decisions, and Trump’s Justice Department will do his bidding, not the courts’.
Awesome and uplifting piece! Bravo 👏 It’s just what I needed to read to give me more hope and promise. Thanks, Jo! I love you!!! (FYI I am Jay’s sister, mimi, for anyone wondering who is proclaiming love to Jay!)
We ALL love Jay! I’ve been reading him for awhile and just today signed up for a subscription. Your work and words, Jay, give me hope and clarity in this chaos. You give me the words to repeat and express what we need, to be where we want to be. Thank you so much.
I figured that , Mimi ! If it weren't for Jay my anxiety levels would be much higher than they are ! He helps me " stay off the ledge " ! Plus I want to watch Riley grow up ! Cheers !
YES, he's an evil little pointy head demon! He's always wanted to get rid of all social support programs, even those we PAY into when working! He's a foul little booger!
Thanks, Jay, you're one of the few calling out this guy, who I think is the "brains" of the operation, the guy behind the Weekend at Bernie's presidency who is probably just a few weeks away from pushing Susie Wiles aside.
And if anyone wants a little backgrounder on this fascist pile of excrement, I wrote one back in September, because I noticed he was pretty much the only person left from the Orange Puffalo's first go-round:
Thanks for the kind words. I don't like sharing my blog links on other substacks, but I occasionally do anyway if it's this relevant. A little history is always good for context.
Jay's article was enlightening because until a few days ago I thought maybe Miller was more in the background than he seems to be. I never know Trump's true intentions. He's a psycho but he's all about himself. This guy? I know what his intentions are. Never in doubt.
You can’t forget to give Stephen Miller credit for helping to separate the babies from their parents and to ship them off to who knows where …many of them still missing… Adopted into white families ?? Betsy DeVos and her brother were involved with this and I’m not a conspiracy theorist
Oh, I’ve been aware of him and watching him very carefully for a while ….😵💫absolutely terrifying. Something is really really wrong with the man and has been for a very long time. I do wonder how his parents feel about how he turned out.
I'd like to see the attorneys that defend these unconstitutional orders held in contempt at a minimum. A verbal thrashing from the judge is good, but they really should be held to a higher standard by the state bar. Perhaps is their license to practice was in jeopardy they might be less likely to waste the court's time with their ridiculous defenses.
I asked because I remember being appalled at the amount of taxpayer funds that were spent in his first administration to defend actions that were unconstitutional. Sure not feeling the need to watch that happen again.
It seems that most of MAGA seem to not know their family history. My German ancestors came here, entering through Galveston, TX, because they knew they would be denied entry in NYC. I have no idea whether they became citizens as we know it today, they just came in, started farming, and lived their lives. The first were poor farmers, my grandfather became a blacksmith, my mother a R.N., and I’m a CPA. As far as I can tell, I was the only hospital birth and therefore registered as a citizen, so might I, a lifelong resident of the USA be deported?
Unfortunately true as it pertains to whom they decide to harass. They don't seem to care if you came over illegally as say a white Russian. You have to look the part... at least for now
Please don't spread the myth of "Anchor Babies". They effectively don't exist. Even if Trump had really been the first US-citizen child in the family, it wouldn't have helped the rest of them in terms of immigration eligibility. And that's been true at least since the 1960s (I believe even earlier).
It's entirely possible, and is a long-standing issue; it predates Trump. The Bush and Obama administrations have done this, too. Trump is just doing it more openly. US citizens, especially those born in the Rio Grande Valley, have had their passports revoked when trying to return to the US from an international trip, facing accusations that they were actually born in Mexico, and the midwives allegedly issued false US birth certificates.
I am a retired attorney, retired after 49 years of active practice, including in courts of general trial jurisdiction. I am no advocate of our current Supreme Court. But I would predict that allowing deportation without hearing is a bridge too far even for this Supreme Court. If not,then our Constitution is being incrementally repealed.
First, Expedited Removal has been part of US law for many years already; Trump just expanded the scope.
Second, immigration cases are often not appealable in the first place. This is because due process does not apply to non-citizens outside US territory.
Unbelievable. Someone should get those boys a Big Print U.S. Constitution. You know when I was sworn in as an attorney, I remember what they told me about upholding and protecting our laws. Not to mention all attorneys being bound by their Rules of Professional Conduct. How about starting here at 8.4 Misconduct (g) engage in conduct that the lawyer knows or reasonably should know is harassment or discrimination on the basis of race, sex, religion, national origin, ethnicity, disability, age, sexual orientation, gender identity, marital status or socioeconomic status in conduct related to the practice of law. So don’t be coming after our champions. Play.By.The.Rules.Team.Trump.
Some of these executive orders appear to be a ploy to fail and then blame the courts, the states' attorneys generals, etc. It plays to trump's victimhood status and pulls the MAGA in closer. Gives him a reason to assert more power and control on his way to authoritarianism. Is he goading the newly pardoned MAGA felons to attempt another coup to seize control of the legislature and courts?
Jay, I live in a large town in rural Oregon, and agriculture is one of the primary sources of revenue coming into our county. Many of the jobs on the farms, ranches, and vineyards are done by Hispanic people ( my understanding is that Mexico is the primary country of origin). In the past few decades, there are a number of Hispanic families that have been very successful in purchasing and operating fairly large and lucrative farms. I'm sure that there will be some impact on these families with the new immigration policies and this may interfere with their continued success. In recent years, the cost to purchase productive farmland has increased a great deal. I am wondering if we are overlooking something that may be important to consider in our understanding of what motivates these new policies. I am currently reading a book entitled " A Call To Farms"( pub. 2024), by Jennifer Grayson. On pg. 54 in a footnote, she discusses the Victory Gardens that were so prevalent during that time. " What's also seldom noted is what really led to the rationing and food shortages of WW2 that prompted the U.S. Government to propagandize the Victory Gardens: the incarceration of 120,000 Japanese Americans, who until that moment constituted 2/3 of the West Coast's farmers (growing 40% of California's vegetables alone). The evidence emerged that internment was orchestrated by the U.S. Government as an agricultural land grab for corporate agribusinesses. Victory Gardens were the decoy." In her notes, she gives several sources for this evidence ( which I have not looked into, sorry!). This was kind of a revelation to me, as I knew different parts of the story but not specifically about the land grab aspects, or how it all fit together. Thanks for taking the time to read this.
One important aspect is that Hispanic != recent immigrants. Oregon has not been historically part of Mexico, but California has (and people do migrate). A very large share of the CA population is Hispanic, many of them descendants of families predating California statehood. A few of the Mexican ranchos (or at least the ranch houses, often the last remaining part of the rancho) have been owned by the same families since the 1700s.
First, I worry about these cases going before Trump-appointed judges before they make it all the way to the Supreme Court. Many don't appear to value the Constitution any more than Trump does. Second, I fear that Trump and Miller will take the 'don't ask for permission, do it and ask for forgiveness later' route with immigrants. They seem wholly committed to their course no matter what the law says.
I would think the victims would choose the jurisdiction and greatly enhance the chance of getting a proper judge, if judge A rules in the same circumstances as judge B with diametrically opposed results mayhem will ensue.
I don't think the victims will be in any position to choose their jurisdiction. It'll be the groups like the ACLU that will do the choosing. Dumpy and Miller have no intention of letting these people go to court, period.
I can't help but think that the birthright citizenship EO was meant as a distraction from all the other shit Trump's doing. Tie up legal and other resources fighting an easily overturned "blatantly unconstitutional" move, letting stuff that's harder to fight slide under the radar.
We should stop thinking things are distractions for something else just because the press moves on from a story. They are all part of plan, and we’ve seen it laid out in Project 2025.
It must follow that if the parents of US born children are not subject to the laws of the US then the lawful authorities can do nothing as they can only act when a law has been broken. I think the Reagan era judge was threatening the little lawyer puppet with his comment about bar membership. The Orange nitwit doesn’t realize that lawyers will start to hesitate if their meal ticket is under threat for ethical breach. That’s the soft underbelly and invites the point of attack.
And don't forget when the whole "they're eating the dogs!" thing was happening, JD Vance said very clearly in front of TV cameras that he didn't care if legally documented immigrants were taken away with undocumented ones. They say these things in front of God and everybody and too many people wave it away as if it doesn't matter. This is the epitome of "first they came for the Communists...."
"first they came for the Communists...."
A very appropriate quote to remember these days.
Martin Niemoller's poem First they came for the.... HE wrote it after he realized too late no one was safe from Hitler! IF you weren't 100% loyal, off to the camps you go! T-rump and Miller, AKA Hitler pointy head Goebbel are a history repeat. I just hope they'll be stopped before the rest of the world has to stop us! from annihilating everyone!
Miller has the same pointy head too
That's not his head, that's his pointy Klan hood.
Good point !👍
No, very bad point.
Your comment, “…before the rest of the world has to stop us” is fitting for another article I wrote a little while ago, about the U.S. potentially joining a new world “axis” of autocratic superpowers:
https://www.ruminato.com/p/and-just-like-that-the-price-of-eggs
That was the truth that JD Vance spoke, he doesn't care if legal immigrants get taken away or citizens, until someone takes his wife and children away.
Would he care? What if it really came down to the kind of ethnic/religious cleansing these people want? Would Vance defend his wife or let her be taken away??
I don't think he can function without her. She clearly prepped him for his debate. Don't know his closeness to his children.
Probably not. He is what he is. He would save himself and be damned with anyone else.
THAT is a great question.. can't understand why she stays with him since tRump became more important than her own "brown" children!
I've been wondering the same thing. What "deal" would his wife get from trump???
That is a good and legitimate question!!!
Just a thought. Peter Thiel, tech billionaire, is Vance's mentor and puppet master. Thiel is gay (no problem, people are born as God decides). Vance said he wasn't sure of his sexuality as per his autobiography. Maybe he is involved with Thiel so has no allegiance to his wife?
I would say Vance has no allegiance to anyone but himself, not Thiel, or Usha, not his children. People like Vance are too damaged to care about anyone other than how they can serve them.
Folks we have time to wait . There is ....um .in 2026... maybe an election comin up ......I think ? I hope ....right ? I mean they wont stop elections ....um they cant just do that ....can they ? Well somebody is sure to come help us ? Right ?
The courts and civil service will protect our democracy! MAGA fascists have already fired many government workers, including my partner. DEI is good for the USA and we will keep doing everything we can to undermine Trump and protect the most vulnerable: https://democracydefender2025.substack.com/p/dei-public-servant-fired
My son in law works for the VA. He said last nite that His job is possibly on a list...
With the military, Black & Hispanic citizens, the low income Red state voters ALL being screwed over with the end of DEI jobs, military jobs, & cuts to services people depend on...
Social Security & Medicare/Medicaid is too.
I guess R voters don't have Parents & Grands that survive on what they've Paid for Decades. Get ready to help support them too. Thoughts & empty Prayers...
Are you saying that all jobs in the US government that don't have White men in them will be considered DEI jobs?
I've been wondering that too. What's the definition of DEI hire? Is it simply if you're not white or male, you must be a DEI hire?
Also, I read in Robert Hubbell's Substack that Trump included Ability in this category so now it is DEIA. Does that mean no more ADA compliance in buildings? It is frightening to think of the backsliding into fascism that Trump is bringing but there are no surprises. There is no level of ugliness that is beyond him.
Yes
Yes, according to the Administration, if someone is from a minority or female, it is a DEI placement. If they are a white male, it is merit-based.
Scary!
The folks in Red states who live on a tight budget should freshen up the guest room now. Family will be moving in. No guest room? No dining room? Well then, set up the living room with bunk beds.
They will need to take care of each other medically because the Medicaid safety net will 1) be underfunded, or… 2) in such disarray that providers will be helpless to serve them.
Keep in mind, hospitals run on razor thin margins. Cash flow is tight. They will be forced to raise fees to big insurance, who in turn will walk away.
Crisis coming very soon in health care funding & delivery. As Leon said, expect pain.
I hope your partner is filing a lawsuit for wrongful termination. I think that everyone should. Don't accept that they can fire you at will.
Courts ? Find one that is not trumplified....good luck and if scotus gets it ....yer not gonna fair well
Wondering when lawsuits were going to be filed.
Don’t be so sure courts will save us. Courts do not have an enforcement arm. They rely on our leaders to enforce their decisions, and Trump’s Justice Department will do his bidding, not the courts’.
Not with the way they’re trying to decimate the civil service.
Awesome and uplifting piece! Bravo 👏 It’s just what I needed to read to give me more hope and promise. Thanks, Jo! I love you!!! (FYI I am Jay’s sister, mimi, for anyone wondering who is proclaiming love to Jay!)
Nice chatting with you, too, today! Riley loves her Gugu!
We ALL love Jay! I’ve been reading him for awhile and just today signed up for a subscription. Your work and words, Jay, give me hope and clarity in this chaos. You give me the words to repeat and express what we need, to be where we want to be. Thank you so much.
I figured that , Mimi ! If it weren't for Jay my anxiety levels would be much higher than they are ! He helps me " stay off the ledge " ! Plus I want to watch Riley grow up ! Cheers !
Your bro is awesome!
Your name gave you away!!😉
Miller is an evil monster.
He oozes slime
That is slime slander, how dare you.
You’re being too kind
I never heard the "Discount Goebbels" before, but I will be using it.
YES, he's an evil little pointy head demon! He's always wanted to get rid of all social support programs, even those we PAY into when working! He's a foul little booger!
Thanks, Jay, you're one of the few calling out this guy, who I think is the "brains" of the operation, the guy behind the Weekend at Bernie's presidency who is probably just a few weeks away from pushing Susie Wiles aside.
And if anyone wants a little backgrounder on this fascist pile of excrement, I wrote one back in September, because I noticed he was pretty much the only person left from the Orange Puffalo's first go-round:
https://www.ruminato.com/p/meet-stephen-miller-the-last-man
Great blog Charles. This should be read by everyone. Stephen is a psychopath just like Trump. Birds of a feather…
Thanks for the kind words. I don't like sharing my blog links on other substacks, but I occasionally do anyway if it's this relevant. A little history is always good for context.
Jay's article was enlightening because until a few days ago I thought maybe Miller was more in the background than he seems to be. I never know Trump's true intentions. He's a psycho but he's all about himself. This guy? I know what his intentions are. Never in doubt.
Miller's wife is just as bad.
vanityfair.com/news/2020/08/stephen-miller-and-his-wife-found-love-in-a-hateful-place?
Holy crap. It's an infestation.
You can’t forget to give Stephen Miller credit for helping to separate the babies from their parents and to ship them off to who knows where …many of them still missing… Adopted into white families ?? Betsy DeVos and her brother were involved with this and I’m not a conspiracy theorist
https://www.vice.com/en/article/devos-linked-adoption-agency-exposed-highly-sensitive-childrens-medical-data/
Oh, I’ve been aware of him and watching him very carefully for a while ….😵💫absolutely terrifying. Something is really really wrong with the man and has been for a very long time. I do wonder how his parents feel about how he turned out.
If it were me, I'd feel how the parents of other criminally insane people who send ICE agents to schools feel.
Thank you, Charles! Shared.
Good article, Charles.
:) thanks for reading!
I'd like to see the attorneys that defend these unconstitutional orders held in contempt at a minimum. A verbal thrashing from the judge is good, but they really should be held to a higher standard by the state bar. Perhaps is their license to practice was in jeopardy they might be less likely to waste the court's time with their ridiculous defenses.
There is a Rule 11 sanction possibility here, but I doubt anyone will seek it.
well someone should. Can filling counsel do it?
Weren't several of Trump's previous lawyers sanctioned for similar things? At least Guiliani was disbarred, although I don't know if that compares.
I asked because I remember being appalled at the amount of taxpayer funds that were spent in his first administration to defend actions that were unconstitutional. Sure not feeling the need to watch that happen again.
Miller is the worst of the worst and his horrid wife is a very close second. Donate to the ACLU if you can!!!
Look up “slime eel” or “hagfish” in your browser of choice and see if that doesn’t describe Miller to a T.
It seems that most of MAGA seem to not know their family history. My German ancestors came here, entering through Galveston, TX, because they knew they would be denied entry in NYC. I have no idea whether they became citizens as we know it today, they just came in, started farming, and lived their lives. The first were poor farmers, my grandfather became a blacksmith, my mother a R.N., and I’m a CPA. As far as I can tell, I was the only hospital birth and therefore registered as a citizen, so might I, a lifelong resident of the USA be deported?
Unless you are heavily sun tanned you are probably okay.
Unfortunately true as it pertains to whom they decide to harass. They don't seem to care if you came over illegally as say a white Russian. You have to look the part... at least for now
I have been wondering if Mary tRump was ever naturalized? Wouldn't it be rich if tRump was an anchor baby?
or Barron? Or any of the other spawn (except Tiffany, who I assume IS a U.S. citizen by virtue of her mom Marla Maples)?
Barron was born in March 2006 and Melania gained citizenship in July 2006.
Please don't spread the myth of "Anchor Babies". They effectively don't exist. Even if Trump had really been the first US-citizen child in the family, it wouldn't have helped the rest of them in terms of immigration eligibility. And that's been true at least since the 1960s (I believe even earlier).
It's entirely possible, and is a long-standing issue; it predates Trump. The Bush and Obama administrations have done this, too. Trump is just doing it more openly. US citizens, especially those born in the Rio Grande Valley, have had their passports revoked when trying to return to the US from an international trip, facing accusations that they were actually born in Mexico, and the midwives allegedly issued false US birth certificates.
But after November 5, the cats, the dogs and those carnivorous Haitians all disappeared without a trace.
And that apartment complex in CO taken over by a Venezuelan gang… I guess all is well there too.
Yep, just like the “massive election fraud, the likes of which have never been seen anywhere” (all caps, of course).
I am a retired attorney, retired after 49 years of active practice, including in courts of general trial jurisdiction. I am no advocate of our current Supreme Court. But I would predict that allowing deportation without hearing is a bridge too far even for this Supreme Court. If not,then our Constitution is being incrementally repealed.
I would predict Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Amy Coney Barrett would not go along with the president rewriting the 14th Amendment unilaterally
I would not bet on it, for two reasons.
First, Expedited Removal has been part of US law for many years already; Trump just expanded the scope.
Second, immigration cases are often not appealable in the first place. This is because due process does not apply to non-citizens outside US territory.
Unbelievable. Someone should get those boys a Big Print U.S. Constitution. You know when I was sworn in as an attorney, I remember what they told me about upholding and protecting our laws. Not to mention all attorneys being bound by their Rules of Professional Conduct. How about starting here at 8.4 Misconduct (g) engage in conduct that the lawyer knows or reasonably should know is harassment or discrimination on the basis of race, sex, religion, national origin, ethnicity, disability, age, sexual orientation, gender identity, marital status or socioeconomic status in conduct related to the practice of law. So don’t be coming after our champions. Play.By.The.Rules.Team.Trump.
Oh, c'mon. Dumpy has never played by anybody's rules, written or assumed, except his.
Some of these executive orders appear to be a ploy to fail and then blame the courts, the states' attorneys generals, etc. It plays to trump's victimhood status and pulls the MAGA in closer. Gives him a reason to assert more power and control on his way to authoritarianism. Is he goading the newly pardoned MAGA felons to attempt another coup to seize control of the legislature and courts?
Trump hates losing, though, and if he racks up loss after loss it will undermine his stature.
I don't think racking up loss after loss will undermine his stature whatsoever with the MAGA cult or radical extremist politicians.
Also a ploy to deflect attention from other insidious EOs, such as the one (allegedly; I haven't been able to verify it) the $35 insulin price.
Jay, I live in a large town in rural Oregon, and agriculture is one of the primary sources of revenue coming into our county. Many of the jobs on the farms, ranches, and vineyards are done by Hispanic people ( my understanding is that Mexico is the primary country of origin). In the past few decades, there are a number of Hispanic families that have been very successful in purchasing and operating fairly large and lucrative farms. I'm sure that there will be some impact on these families with the new immigration policies and this may interfere with their continued success. In recent years, the cost to purchase productive farmland has increased a great deal. I am wondering if we are overlooking something that may be important to consider in our understanding of what motivates these new policies. I am currently reading a book entitled " A Call To Farms"( pub. 2024), by Jennifer Grayson. On pg. 54 in a footnote, she discusses the Victory Gardens that were so prevalent during that time. " What's also seldom noted is what really led to the rationing and food shortages of WW2 that prompted the U.S. Government to propagandize the Victory Gardens: the incarceration of 120,000 Japanese Americans, who until that moment constituted 2/3 of the West Coast's farmers (growing 40% of California's vegetables alone). The evidence emerged that internment was orchestrated by the U.S. Government as an agricultural land grab for corporate agribusinesses. Victory Gardens were the decoy." In her notes, she gives several sources for this evidence ( which I have not looked into, sorry!). This was kind of a revelation to me, as I knew different parts of the story but not specifically about the land grab aspects, or how it all fit together. Thanks for taking the time to read this.
One important aspect is that Hispanic != recent immigrants. Oregon has not been historically part of Mexico, but California has (and people do migrate). A very large share of the CA population is Hispanic, many of them descendants of families predating California statehood. A few of the Mexican ranchos (or at least the ranch houses, often the last remaining part of the rancho) have been owned by the same families since the 1700s.
First, I worry about these cases going before Trump-appointed judges before they make it all the way to the Supreme Court. Many don't appear to value the Constitution any more than Trump does. Second, I fear that Trump and Miller will take the 'don't ask for permission, do it and ask for forgiveness later' route with immigrants. They seem wholly committed to their course no matter what the law says.
I would think the victims would choose the jurisdiction and greatly enhance the chance of getting a proper judge, if judge A rules in the same circumstances as judge B with diametrically opposed results mayhem will ensue.
I don't think the victims will be in any position to choose their jurisdiction. It'll be the groups like the ACLU that will do the choosing. Dumpy and Miller have no intention of letting these people go to court, period.
There will be a tsunami of writs. The tinpot fuhrer will have no choice in the matter.
I can't help but think that the birthright citizenship EO was meant as a distraction from all the other shit Trump's doing. Tie up legal and other resources fighting an easily overturned "blatantly unconstitutional" move, letting stuff that's harder to fight slide under the radar.
We should stop thinking things are distractions for something else just because the press moves on from a story. They are all part of plan, and we’ve seen it laid out in Project 2025.
It seems like a distraction because the media has not moved on from the weakest part of the P2025 agenda.
It must follow that if the parents of US born children are not subject to the laws of the US then the lawful authorities can do nothing as they can only act when a law has been broken. I think the Reagan era judge was threatening the little lawyer puppet with his comment about bar membership. The Orange nitwit doesn’t realize that lawyers will start to hesitate if their meal ticket is under threat for ethical breach. That’s the soft underbelly and invites the point of attack.