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David's avatar

60 Minutes needs to have him on asap.

RICH GOPEN's avatar

Given the settlement that Paramount just effected, I think we can expect that 60 Minutes will be even more restrained in its investigations than it recently has been - at least until the current administration is gone.

Geoffrey Deihl's avatar

Yep. Any expectations of the mainstream media is foolish. It's been that way for a long time.

Katya Partan's avatar

60 Minutes has been effectively muzzled.

David's avatar

If you don’t like 60 minutes then substitute in any high profile national program — I’m just trying to make that point

Kim Hansen's avatar

Good point. But the rest of the media is not so bold, either. I’m re-evaluating my subscriptions to both Paramount and Peacock, because of their abdication of journalistic responsibility.

At one time, Peacock carried the top MSNBC hosts, publishing them both as streaming and Podcasts. One after another, they have eliminated them, until only Chris Hayes and Ari Melber remain available. And Melber promotes “advice” from do-nothing has-been idiots like Carville. So now my subscriptions to both the streaming service, and the premium Podcasts, has been rendered near-moot.

Pattipo's avatar

Just decided to cancel Peacock, thanks, I hardly watch it anyway.. save myself the subscription fee..

Theresa Echols Haack's avatar

Maybe PBS and NPR and possibly BBC

NEAL O'CONNOR's avatar

CBS has already capitulated in the Paramount "merger-for-settlement" transaction between Trump and the parent company. It must be petty cash to the appeasers because it certainly makes them look bad.

Bambi Vargo's avatar

I would not be surprised if Trump refuses to give the OK for the merger to administer his daily dose of cruelty and suffering.

Bambi Vargo's avatar

I think I was wrong in believing Trump would refuse to give the OK for the merger. On second thought his quid pro quo style will allow him to approve the merger. He will not be cruel to the "rich and famous"--his "people." He saves the real cruelty and suffering for non-wealthy, particularly People of color. As a matter of fact, GOP (Group of Pedophiles) seem to be (as Dan Rather has said) "salivating over the suffering" to come from cuts to healthcare and other services in the big death bill.

JeanneFC's avatar

Will 60 Minutes survive Shari’s bending her knee to get her payoff?

Walt Svirsky's avatar

60 Minutes is completely compromised

Lynnie's avatar

I don’t believe 60 Minutes would touch this in light of their issues, how about Lawrence or Rachel?

Dale Lawrence's avatar

I don’t think they’ll have the courage.

Joni Jensen's avatar

Never happen. CBS and 60 Minutes has already bent the knee.

David's avatar

Good point. Maybe someone else will. Or maybe I should just give up all hope.

Christina Drostin's avatar

Thank you for speaking and sharing these horrific truths. Especially the reference to people wondering how Hitler’s Germany could have ever come to be. I am terrified and enraged.

Stephen Brady's avatar

Jay - how is it in any way, shape, or form is it legal for tRump's henchmen to render these human beings to CECOT? What is the mechanism they believe gives them the right to do so? Is it just 'might makes right'? These would be war crimes under the Geneva Conventions, if we were at war...

Christina Drostin's avatar

I agree. And I’m baffled that SCOTUS decided the administration can continue sending to prisons in other countries.

Maya J's avatar

It is proof that SCOTUS is fully complicit.

Jacobs-Meadway Roberta's avatar

Once the Court decides that the right to due process need not be enforced and valid court orders may be ignored with impunity, the rest follows.

Janet HB's avatar

Since when did they care about “legal”? Their goal is to shred the constitution

Stephen Brady's avatar

But still, it would be nice to hear a judge call them out on the illegalities here.

Fixed typo.

James Rankin's avatar

Some have. Then Trump calls for their impeachment, while the illegitimate, anti-constitutional SCOTUS overrules them, anyway.

James Rankin's avatar

It isn't. It is against the Constitution. Unfortunately, neither this regime nor the Supreme Court honor the Constitution.

Lance Khrome's avatar

"Alligator Alcatraz" and its like will be today's Abu Ghraib and Gitmo, on US soil, and nobody will stop this horror show.

Jay Kuo's avatar

We can stop it. We must at least try everything we have to stop it.

Riversong Pond's avatar

As a first step in non-compliance, we should stop using the regime’s chosen language. Our movement got creative with renaming the Big Bad Billionaire Boondoggle or the Murder Bill.

We need to do the same with the new beastly prison in Florida. Otherwise, we’re helping them amplify their vicious vision. I’ve already heard Crocodile Concentration Camp and Alligator Auschwitz. Our language needs to name the evil.

insert_something_creative's avatar

I've also heard it called Gator Gulag, though I'm not sure how many Americans who aren't already horrified understand the reference or definition of "gulag" (which is part of how we ended here in the first place).

James Rankin's avatar

Gator Gulag is a great one & very apposite

Theresa Palmer's avatar

Lawsuits will. We still have the courts. The lower courts, at least.

kdsherpa's avatar

I have always known. And I "saw" it coming on June 16, 2015 when the orange sadist and melanoma descended that fake gold escalator. It was a vision, and it was TERRIFYING. I had decided that it wasn't meaningful, until November, 2024 when Hitler was reelected. Ever since he has been used by vought, et.al. to create a new Fourth Reich.

Diane Bisson's avatar

This accounting of the trauma inflicted on all of those detained and deported makes me sick, filled with despair and disgust. I do not understand how those falling in line with the administration (I have my doubts that Trump’s is alert enough to make the decisions but rather Stephen Miller is at the helm) can hold their heads up in public. They deserve a special place in hell for their complicity.

Martha Donnelly's avatar

I'm almost certain this is not Trump's doing. He's just following along, signing what they put in front of him, going where they tell him to go, and there for the photo ops and rambling answers to press questions. He's barely coherent a lot of the time, clearly not physically healthy, and in no way smart enough to mastermind something as horrific as Alligator Alcatraz.

Charles Bastille's avatar

Susie Wiles is the mastermind behind almost all of this. She continues to get a free pass.

Geoffrey Deihl's avatar

I just wrote an article on Alligator Alcatraz. They're merchandising it with hats and T-shirts being sold on Amazon. The hat, most interestingly was dated 2023. Trump may not be the mastermind, but he is fully aware.

https://geoffreydeihl.substack.com/p/the-death-cult-alliance

Marjorie Dixon's avatar

The date on the hat is very interesting. Project 25?

Linda Orlick's avatar

ABSOLUTELY SICKENING!!!! CANT FIND ANY OTHER WORDS TO DESCRIBE THIS ATTACK ON HUMANITY! THIS IS CURRENT DAY NAZISM!!!!!!

skangirl's avatar

The parallels are undeniable, but what MAGA failed to learn is that Hitler's Thousand-Year Reich lasted only 12 years, resulting in the deaths of approx. 40 million human beings and destroying vast swaths of Europe.

Maya J's avatar

That’s been my point too. The madmen never last. But they take down so many with them.

skangirl's avatar

I wish he would just cut to the chase, go downstairs to "inspect" the bunker...one last time.

Elly's avatar

A lightning strike while he's golfing would do the trick as well. It would also be "an act of God" letting all the MAGA faithful know that God is pissed.

James Rankin's avatar

A lot more than just Trump have to be removed from power (although it's a good start).

Nina's avatar

Taking out tRump won't help, it's the Project 2025 Puppeteers that are behind him running the show. We want it to stop, but don't know what to do about it?

Susahna's avatar

Thank you, Jay, for your research, passion and courage for the truth.

4❤️of47🌲's avatar

💯Jay, thank you for this courageous and important writing.

All - Let’s use a more appropriate name and flip the script a bit: Alligator Auschwitz.

Jay Kuo's avatar

I’ve seen that name, but I’m hesitant to use it in light of the gravity and death that occurred at Auschwitz. I understand that “Alligator Alcatraz” is their branding.

4❤️of47🌲's avatar

I get it, but I believe this is way closer to Auschwitz than Alcatraz when taken in whole. Remember: Alligator Auschwitz meets Britannica’s definition of a concentration camp, the real Alcatraz did not. Don’t back down from calling this what it is: https://www.britannica.com/topic/concentration-camp

Kevin's avatar

Then call it concentration camp. There were dozens of those, and it's a fair description. Most were labor camps. Auschwitz wasn't just any concentration camp, though; it was a death camp with gas chambers. A whole other level, and there were only a few of those.

James Rankin's avatar

Not until they start doing the same, but that is where it's headed without any intervention.

Almost 30 years ago I predicted that the way the Republican Party was trending, they were on course to become like the German Nazis, only needing to be led by a charismatic demagogue to make it happen, if nothing or no one intervened to alter their course, & surprisingly, nobody has, although there were many times, by multiple people on all sides, in every branch of the federal government, when someone could've stopped it, but no one did. It's a massive failure of leadership.

Kevin's avatar

Unfortunately, both parties were - and the Dems still are - at risk because both stopped paying attention to the lower income brackets, and sometimes perpetuate the horrible policies of the Republicans (Schumer is the most recent example. Fetterman, Feinstein, both Clintons, and a lot of others come to mind). What so far saved the Dems is that sane democracy-minded people who actually pay attention are stepping up, such as Sanders, AOC, Omar, Hogg, Mamdami.

Interestingly, this also is a parallel to early 1930s Germany. The 1932 election was primarily between Hitler and Thaelman, a Soviet-style communist and Stalin admirer; all the moderate parties were very weak by then.

Karen BK's avatar

tRump’s Alligator Gulag?

James Rankin's avatar

Actually, I find that a scary enough name on its own, & it makes clear their sadistic intent.

Kevin's avatar

Please don't use the term Auschwitz here. There are no gas chambers in the Alligator facility.

4❤️of47🌲's avatar

Well, not yet. I guess we should be reserved until things get real bad. Hold on a sec, there’s a van outside my house with some guys in masks, probably just 4 Amazon guys but m

Sally Richman's avatar

Before the concentration camps, Jews and others were murdered in vans modified to direct exhaust into the truck

https://pinkas.jewishmuseum.cz/cesty-bez-navratu/belorusko/pojizdne-plynove-komory

4❤️of47🌲's avatar

Thank you Sally for helping to inform us about this grisly innovation.

Sally Richman's avatar

The gas chambers and crematoria were developed because the van use was inefficient, they couldn't eradicate the Jewish population fast enough.

Sally Richman's avatar

And shooting and digging mass Graves was too labor intensive.

Jac Clark's avatar

Correct that we shall work hard for due process

But regardless of criminality, we should not be paying for torture in our country or anyone else’s

SCS - Michigan's avatar

My heart weeps

😢

These horrifying human-rights atrocities are being done in OUR NAME with OUR MONEY. I am beyond enraged!

I will continue to call my reps daily. And I cannot wait for our next NATIONAL protest. We Must Resist 💙

Lance Khrome's avatar

Let us remember that the Bush administration first institutionalized government-sponsored torture, and even justified it by DOJ and WH memoranda — recall the infamous John Woo "torture memos" ? So the tRump, Noem, Homan, and Miller gang aren't exactly breaking new ground, but what they ARE doing is enacting all this barbarity IN PLAIN SIGHT, in fact going out of their way to publicly CELEBRATE their fiendish acts, and defying the courts, Congress, and public opinion in doing so.

This is the run-up to Fourth of July, 2025, no longer a proud tribute to American independence from an autocratic foreign monarch, but rather the cementing of a fascistic regime of terror, law-breaking, self-dealing and self-enrichment, without surcease or hindrance. I don't know about you, but tomorrow for our friends and family will be a day of mourning, for what was and what no longer may be. This is how rapidly we've come down this road, from last year's 4th to now, and it's early days yet, ffs!

Maya J's avatar

The fact that it is done openly and with photo ops - that’s what takes it to a new level. Also the scale of it.

James Rankin's avatar

I hope that by next 4th of July, on the semiquincentennial (or sestercentennial or bisesquicentennial if you prefer), we will be celebrating our reliberation & emancipation from this authoritarian regime. But it will take a lot of effort & cooperation to make it happen. There will never have been so much joy & celebration as that day to (hopefully) come.

Michela A. C.'s avatar

What do people think actually happens in prison, let alone a foreign prison? The only thing surprising here is that it took this long for the lawsuit to be filed. While we are all comfortable in our homes there is some horrible shit happening that will be in all of our homes soon. Cheetos bill that the gop are welcoming in is giving an enormous amount of money and power for ICEgestapo to legally kidnap and torture anyone they want. ANYONE. And if the dems think they will take power back during the midterms, they may win the votes but cheeto is not gong to go quietly. Why should he when he will have the brute force (ICEgestapo) to suspend midterms. Elections are already being suspended or as they say delayed - https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article309776915.html

Carol S's avatar

Red states may decide to delay elections in 2026. Blue states won't. And all US reps terms end on January 2 or 3 one minute before noon. The blue states representatives will take over the house. . . Seriously, there will be mid terms in 2026. Each state controls its own elections. Sadly, I live in Texas. Horrible?

Michela A. C.'s avatar

If only blue states would gerrymander gop seats the way red states have. That would be interesting.

Mel E's avatar

Unless he starts a war. Elections suspended during active wars. That’s how BiBi has stayed in power; the protests were getting too uncomfortable for him

Carol S's avatar

I've never heard of American elections being suspended due to war. The Constitution is very clear about federal elections. We need to stay focused on what's happening now and that we WILL have elections. . . because we will. Interjecting doubt is not helpful for the stability of our democracy. There's no reason for doubt.

James Rankin's avatar

Trump & Miller are itching to declare martial law to suspend rights & elections. If this regime has to provoke a civil war to do it, they'll be more than happy to.

Michelle Togut's avatar

This is the scariest part of the trump regime--armed, masked men and women snatching people off the street and disappearing them. For now, it's mostly Latinos--many of whom are here legally; others who are citizens. But sooner or later it could be anyone who merely the regime finds unacceptable for any reason. They're already drawing up plans to denaturalize people on the slightest pretext.

Nobody, whether they're here legally or not, whether they've committed a crime or not, should be disappeared to a foreign gulag to be tortured and perhaps killed. Nobody should be deported without due process. But that's not the America we now live in.

Kevin's avatar

According to that article, moving that election date was just a routine adjustment of the election schedule. Seems to have been done in a hamfisted way, but hardly evidence of trying to "suspend" elections in general.

Michela A. C.'s avatar

I really really hope your right.

RICH GOPEN's avatar

There is no reasonable justification for the official crimes that are being perpetrated by governments in the name of "freedom" and "democracy," or even "law and order." There is nothing lawful about organized roundup, torture, and deportation of human beings until those in power break and then re-define the law to meet their cruel needs. Where once this could be said about Fascist, Nazi, Russia, and other police states and dictatorships, now we must include the USA and, of course, Israel, which have risen to the forefront of criminal pariah states. How sad and horrifying that our governments are now our brazen enemies.

Peggy Rose's avatar

This treatment of human beings makes me want to puke. 🤮 I am sick. I am sad. I fight this where I can. I may be old but I can hold signs and walk the lines and yell at protests. Not sure what good it does but I can do that.

Angela Brightfeather's avatar

The one thing to remember is that the ground has already been set for this tragedy and been accepted by many Americans when Trump has ordered that history due to national, religious and ethnic prejudices, should no longer be taught or talked about or read about due to its connection to Anti-DEI regulations.

Young people right now don’t know there was an American war in Vietnam, let alone know about Hitler and WWII.

The ground has been plowed and planted, and only needs time to bare the fruits of evil sowed by Trump and people like Stephan Miller.

RESIST!!

Kevin's avatar

The ground has been set when George Bush implemented many of the same policies.

The ground has been set on 9/11 when terrorists changed America fundamentally. Hate to say it, but bin Laden won spectacularly by destroying the free country we used to have into a hate-filled police state that allowed Trump to thrive.

And the ground also has been set by Nixon (and Ford's pardon of Nixon), the Japanese internment camps, the 1876 election shenanigans, and a lot of other things that have never been set right.

Angela Brightfeather's avatar

So far, you’ve mentioned 3 Republican Presidents and no Democrat ones. It sets a pattern of creating the “others” and holding them up as enemies. It’s Trump though, who has included Americans on that list of fools.

Nanny Ann's avatar

The Trump-imposed deadline to pass the BUB is July 4, the very day that the funding for ICE runs out. (There seems to always be a nefarious method to his madness.) I just downloaded the new App called ICEBlock for your cellphone that will alert you if they are in your immediate area. I have friends here who are from Mexico and I worry...

Charles Bastille's avatar

Trump deserves no "credit." He doesn't remember dates anymore than he remembers his last Big Mac order. Susie Wiles is White House Chief of Staff and Stephen Miller's direct supervisor. She presided over turning Florida red as a DeSantis minion/campaign planner. She's the mastermind. Does anyone truly think Trump is some brilliant mastermind planning all this crap?

Nanny Ann's avatar

Nope, I agree with you. But he's pushed the deadline, probably on orders from his "handlers," the architects of Project 2025. The other thing that strikes me is the crazy RFK Jr with his undermining of vaccines. I now suspect that's the plan all along and it is in line with other strategies (like the Native Boarding Schools) that are intended to kill off anybody who would demand Medicaid.

Charles Bastille's avatar

Apologies if my diatribe sounded directed towards you. It wasn't. Substackers in general are giving him too much credit, and it blows my mind. Did they not watch the debate? Do they not see him give press conferences or read his blatherings on True Sociopath? He *thinks* he's in charge, and in many ways he is. When he tells his Republican sycophants in Congress to dance, they dance. But the strategy is laid down by Wiles. It's no coincidence that she is a Florida politico. She knows the Alligator Concentration Camp area *better than anyone.*

Kathy's avatar

📣📣📣 Call out DeSantis and his corporate donor!

“Governor DeSantis is building “Alligator Alcatraz” with little oversight – and this big campaign donor is set to reap millions from it”

https://floridatrident.org/governor-desantis-is-building-alligator-alcatraz-with-little-oversight-and-this-big-campaign-donor-is-set-to-reap-millions-from-it/

Carol-Ann Dearnaley's avatar

Please, call it what it is: Alligator Auschwitz. Unfortunately, others such concentration camps will follow while the stupidos of this country think it will never happen to them or their family.

Silence is the MAGA Nazi's friend.

Thank you, Jay, for calling it out. This is not some cutsie little jungle gym, this is the start of all that happened in Europe under Hitler. We have to keep a bright light shining on those who are creating this horror. Shout out their names. Give them no quarter.

Kevin's avatar

Please don't use the term Auschwitz. It just cheapens the horror of the gas chambers. We have already allowed that to happen with the term Nazi being attached to everything from grammar to soup.

Carol-Ann Dearnaley's avatar

I will continue to use the term because these people will be living in cages with no air conditioning, and very little access to clean water and a lot of the same conditions. Except, they will die of heat stroke or incipient health problems. It is the same genre of torture. Germany was too cold for this kind of "accommodations." These mini-Auschwitzes can be constructed in under a week; that's a lot quicker than the German death camps. It is the same thought process trying to create the same end. This is as inhumane and like Auschwitz, we don't know who these people are and that's just the way these Nazis like it. You don't think this is horrible? Doesn't lead to death? Is as obscene? Is as wrong? Huh.

Kevin's avatar

If you want to do it right historically, you should call it Alligator Tule Lake. A much more direct analogy.

Carol-Ann Dearnaley's avatar

Unfortunately, this is a country that doesn't own up to its own past tortures. Therefore, to catch the eye of the undereducated, one has to resort to horrors that have an international audience. And the process for removing the people who offend our own version of Reinhardt Heydrick aka Stephen Miller, should be referred to as the "Trail of Tears?" How many people do you think even know the term? Auschwitz is known for what it was, it's international. According to his first wife, trump slept with a copy of "Mein Kampf" next to his bed. It fits. Although Trail of Tears was instituted by the desiccated placenta's favorite president, Andrew Jackson.

Federico's avatar

Not, must be Alligator: this is a USA death camp in this days, not in a far away place and time by another nation.

Alec's avatar

This a death camp. This IS modern day Auschwitz. And we need to call it out if we're to have any hope of stopping this before WW3 and yet another genocide.

Carol-Ann Dearnaley's avatar

Auschwitz is no longer the name of a "far off place." I called it ALLIGATOR AUSCHWITZ. Germany doesn't have alligators and Auschwitz is the name of a death camp. THAT is history, my friend. Auschwitz is a death camp.

Federico's avatar

This is a death camp from USA and you must resolve it whitout labeling it like a death camp from another country and another century. It must signed you like our mussolini racial law or you'll never learn from it.

Carol-Ann Dearnaley's avatar

Rubbish! You are using the same tone Chamberlain did when trying to stay out of WWII. This is the 21st Century example of Auschwitz. Would you prefer Treblinka? Would that sooth your sensibilities? No. This is Auschwitz - we know what it is. We learned about in school. The image is clear. Maybe you are the one who has not learned. Mussolini was a craven clown compared to the Nazis. The MAGAs don't follow the Fascist party. Stephen Miller is not enamored with Mussolini, neither is the desiccated placenta defiling the White House. Hitler is their god. Their extermination camps should bear the name of the ones created by the Nazis. So we REMEMBER what they are doing in our name. Auschwitz. Peddle your argument somewhere else.