Am I correct in saying that this latest release of emails came via the Epstein estate? If so, they must pale in significance to what is contained in what is popularly known as "the Epstein files", in possession by DOJ/FBI. The latter, for sure, have investigatory evidence that may well support much of the tantalizing "hearsay" floating through Epstein's emails, and give weight to the immense speculation concerning the content of that trove of files.
The question that will forever remain is this: What will eventually come to light, and what has been previously or concurrently destroyed after in-house sanitizing of implicative material?
Unless other parties have had access to the FBI files and have copied or otherwise obtained facsimiles of their contents, we well may never know the breadth and depth of participants in Epstein's sex trafficking of under-age girls.
Yep, these were just from his estate. There are some pretty wild rumors circulating about what might be in the DOJ pile of files. One substacker said that FBI agents looking through them had a difficult time dealing with them. But I don't remember who said that, or how they acquired such "information." As I said in another comment, that's one thing I love about Jay. No hearsay, just straight up evidence. I like rumor and innuendo as much as the next person, but it's nice to come here and know I won't have to sift through that kind of stuff.
It’s interesting that when Sheldon Whitehouse asked Bondi if she had ever seen the pictures Michael Wolff claimed to have seen with Trump and half naked girls, she blew up, deflected, and never answered the question. If that photo doesn’t exist in the government’s information, why didn’t she just say so?
Her reaction seems like the reaction of the guilty. I don't know what she has done, but it must have something to do with protecting fotus. People don't act like that otherwise. It was just too raw.
This information came from Alison Gill at Mueller She Wrote. She had direct contact with FBI agents who reviewed the material, and came to her as confidential sources.
Allison Gill was on utube a few days ago speaking in detail about what has been leaked from the FBI agents who were told they had to comb through mountains of evidence and scrub DTs name. She said it deeply effected some of them. Especially the ones who have young daughters. She said they were also not allowed to leave either. Forgive me for not remembering the name of her podcast at this moment. I watch so many of them it's easy to forget a name here or there. I'd guess if you were to go on utube and type her name in it will show you. Definitely worth watching. She's always went under Mueller She Wrote on twitter. But her podcast is named differently.
But that video a few days ago on utube about the FBI agents having to stay and scrub those docs and videos of anything to do with trump was one of her best!
It probably was where you heard it. If you're like me I sometimes just catch a short clip of a substack Live or a particular podcast. Not having time to watch all of it right then. I did watch all of that podcast because it was full of information. She's usually good about fact checking as well.
What worries me is all this right wing conspiracy talk about Dems and their elite supporters killing babies to drink their blood to preserve their youth and the like. I can’t imagine the people they mention doing those horrible things. But their ( the Republican leadership)
M.O. and past pattern of projection would cause one to wonder if the Republican predator ring isn’t actually doing such things. Some show such indifference to the value of human life except their own, it seems possible.
It still seems like it will be a complex process for the actual FBI files to be revealed from what I have been reading. There is a process, and meanwhile Trump is pressuring 2 of the Republican women who plan to vote yes on releasing the files, Nancy Mace and Lauren Boebert. So, we shall see.
On the other hand, Aaron Parnas (I don't know how reliable he is or isn't, but he seems okay to me) is reporting that many more Republicans are defecting to the side of releasing the files. I have to think that anyone who is NOT directly involved with Epstein will find it necessary to demand their release.
If you want to know what Putin said to Trump to make him look like a shell-shocked whipped cur, watch this documentary, made by a young filmmaker who knew Trump's family in Florida. Putin's death-grip on Trump goes back a long, long time:
Yes. It's very informative. Trump really has had deep ties with Russia going way back. Remember Eric Trumps statement, paraphrasing here, "We have all the money we need from Russia!" Lots of talk about money laundering etc...
I would agree with that logic. We shall see. As we know Republicans are generally afraid of Trump because he is like a gangster. No wonder he was involved in the trafficking of young women and girls.
Right, but there's no need for them to be afraid of Trump anymore if his complicity and/or participation with Epstein is proven. Then he becomes a liability and the rats won't be able to desert the sinking ship fast enough.
I have found Aaron to be reliable & relevant. He also isn't the only one I have found to be solid making the observation that all the dishonesty, & deliberate ramming into rocks, is finally coming full circle & rats are scrambling over bodies & jumping ship. Don't know how that will play out, but it's a important point. The cohesion Maga had is not holding. Republicans aren't going to be able to outrun or swim, lol, the damage they are doing.
I’ve been following him for a long time. He is very young, was a lawyer before becoming a journalist, graduated from college at maybe 17. He has a lot of contacts, breaks news before most do, and has great integrity. He produces short 8 minute videos morning and evening but also comes out with short videos as soon as there is something important happening. I check in with him first and then go to longer commentary by many others.
The problem is that this is being done through Congress (we're probably a few weeks away from that, and it could even get delayed until January). But it's also possible it passes the Senate late November/early December. But then it heads to Trump's desk. If he truly has something to fear (meaning the drip of stuff that's come out isn't the worst of it) then he likely vetoes it. He could also sign it, though, if there are others named (particularly democrats) so he can make noise and confuse the issue.
But my bet is he vetoes it. Then it looks like Congress doesn't have the votes to override the veto. But the veto would create it's own firestorm.
Given the rumors that about 100 GOP reps have been quietly talking about voting yes on the bill (after the discharge petition goes through its 7 days of “ripening” and 2 days for Johnson to schedule the vote), I think Congress will have the votes to override a veto.
Representatives will have to face voters over this in less than a year. I suspect that there are a lot of GOP Representatives who are doing the math on that plus Trump’s obvious decline. And they will put their political survival over loyalty to Dear Leader.
The Senate is the harder get, potentially, for a veto override. You need 67. That means the 47 Democrats and Independents will need 20 Repubkicans. Not an impossible get, but difficult. And we're not there yet. There is strength in numbers, but I expect the pressure from Trump will be fierce
There worry is mostly a primary challenge on the right. Though I'm not sure how much influence he has right now. The firestorm on the right hasn't been about Epstein, but rather his comments on H-1bs and the economy.
plus, idiot Chuck Schumer and his cohorts like King, Shaheen, etc., will probably vote with Republicans to suppress release of the Epstein files. I really, really, don't understand Chuck.
I don't think ANY of the Dems are going to vote to keep the files suppressed. And I guarantee we get some Repubs on this, it stinks to high heaven and they know it. It's one thing to kiss the felon's ring on his horrendous policies, it's another to be seen as hiding a pedo. This thing lives on long after the felon is gone and they know it.
You just know there are multiple copies of the report/files in various unknown hands ready to spill in case DoJ continues to only cherry-pick certain pages.
This cannot be overcome. It will be the final sunset for Trump.
As I understand it, the entirety of the files were shared between the FBI, and DOJ
In Bondi’s panic to excise Trump’s name therein! Normal procedure would have compartilized sections; hence why there are Representatives and Senators, close to agents, who have been briefed of the contents of many files.
We need the “John Dean” in all of this to come forward. The person inside the White House who knows what really is happening and finds their conscience.
BTW, while in the body of her book Virginia Giuffre only said "good things" in her brief summation of Trump when she met him at Mar-A-Lago, in her last chapter, there is a long section of why she did not name more names of those who used and abused her:
"You will notice that while I've named some men in this book, I hae not named all the men I was trafficked to... Partly is that I don't know the names of some of their names. Partly, it is that there are certain men I fear naming.... One of those men's names has come up frequently in court filings, and he has told my lawyers about him publicly, he will employ his vast resources to keep me in court the rest of my life... I have the same fears about another man whom I was forced to have sex with many times - a man whom I also saw have sexual contact with Epstein himself. I would love to identify him here. But he, too, is very wealthy and very powerful, and I fear..."
I'd say she did not let Trump off the hook - she simply didn't dare write about him by name.
And I wish people would quit saying "her tragic death by suicide" etc. She herself, before her death, insisted that "in no way, shape or form am I suicidal."
Trumps mentor was Roy Cohn, a known gay person who died of AIDS. Maybe he had a hand in Trump's education. Gay sex would be the absolute worst thing that Trump would fear being released. The worst.
BTW, a while back I saw a short reel on YouTube or FB, not sure which (and now I can't find it anywhere), where a man said he saw a photograph of a very young JD Vance on Epstein Island, at the pool. Too young, he said, to be there looking for young women for himself. But not too young for grown men...
Well, there goes the Great White Hope of Rockbridge, the group formed of elite tech-bros who are working to put forward JD Vance b/c they think America needs a broligarchy.
I also wouldn't be quick to believe the 'mother of lies' KL, when she identifies the victim who spent several hours with Trump as Virginia Giuffre. Convenient that she sadly is dead snd cannot rebuff this, but also thst she is on record saying Trump was a gentleman (!). I completely agree with your analysis of her having to protect herself.
Me too arne. I hope I live to see trump brought to justice and that in the future the name trump will become a name nobody says out loud and nobody wants to be connected to because it's so dirty.
Same, Ray. Nothing less will do for these arsonists that have been doing every thing they can to burn down everything we have, everything we have worked so hard to build over lifetimes, just so they can lord over some sick scorched earth fantasy. They think playing with fire is something they control, but they are setting themselves on fire. "We didn't start this fire", & we can't keep putting it out. Let it burn. 🔥
According to NYT, Epstein was a financial high roller, and more than one senior officer at JPMorgan at least suspected what Epstein was doing; i.e., sex trafficking. They also suspected money laundering. All this to say that if all the dirt comes out, the explosion may incriminate a lot more people than Rump. It may rattle governments other than ours.
There has to be money laundering. It’s not like anyone files a federal tax form and lists occupation as Sex Trafficker and declares that income. Epstein claimed his income came from being a tax advisor and financial planner, but he didn’t previously have a long resume on those. Interestingly, another person who likely has a long history with laundered money for his real estate developments, in this case from Russia, is Epstein’s buddy Trump. I think those two had the “goods” on each other.
Oh, I think you're absolutely correct there, Michael.
Add to all of the above the whispers about Rump being a Russian asset and Epstein working with Mossad, and I think there's dirt that goes way beyond even the obvious crimes. Who knows who offed Epstein?
Epstein gave favors to everyone, wheedled his way into their secrets and fears, and spread gossip, using it like currency. Lo and behold, men seem to love to hear and spread gossip, just like they say women do. Epstein used what he knew as leverage to build his wealth and power. Until he messed w/ Putin, a bigger and more powerful monster who can get access into any prison, hotel, or home in the world.
I will always remember how Trump slunk out defeated after his private meeting with Putin. It was so very obvious that Putin had the upper hand. Putin just leapt onto the platform like a winner. Remember that there was no interpreter from America and the Russian interpreter was told to destroy their notes before the left the room. This is why Putin never gets pushback from Trump. Helsinki.
It was obvious that Putin had something on Trump. The easy answer is decades of Trump’s businesses being used to launder money for the Russian mob and oligarchs. Helps pay for casinos, golf courses, hotels, and mixed-use developments. But Epstein videos and audios - quite possible. Maxwell learned the art of selling dark secrets to third parties from her father.
Indeed! That hadn’t yet occurred to me. She was so committed to both the cause of being a wife and mother of three as well as stopping the abuse, her suicide seemed a non sequitor. Or else it was an exclamation point. I could find no details about it at all.
Exactly. I cannot find out how she died. If anyone has that information, I would be interested in seeing it. Women with three children rarely commit suicide.
Her co-writer said that Guiffre was despondent because her husband had a court order whereby she could not see her kids. That was the reason for the suicide. She had accused him of abuse and he had counter accused. Her brother and his wife backed up the husband’s abuse. This was all in the prologue to Guiffre’s book Nobody’s Girl.
Thank you. I had not read the forward until after I read your post. I am glad I read the forward after reading the book. It is a very, very sad ending. She was a lifelong victim of abuse. I think she should have alluded to this in her book so her followers and supporters knew all she was dealing with. I am not surprised that she married a violent man. In the book she made her family life seem like a fairy tale. I am so sorry to learn that it was not that.
Is there a possibility he was saying he has been trying to figure out who ratted him out to kick off the investigation and he is noticing that despite all the interrogations he has been through the one person who’s name never came up was his old pal? Is he suggesting to his partner in crime that even though primary victims/witnesses were people that had spent time with his pal, that somehow his pal’s name was not coming up, and therefore he was 75% to concluding that his old pal was the rat, so the investigators weren’t interested in collecting evidence about him?
I've suspected from the beginning of the Qanon/Pizza Gate/Democratic Pedophilie Ring conspiracy that it was a simple Soviet-style "Deflect and Project" strategy where those accused of wrong-doing try to deflect attention away from their wrong-doing by accusing their perceived enemy of doing the very things they themselves are doing.
Thank you for diving into the material released thus far.
There is going to be a great deal of non-Trump related material in the Epstein files that also needs publicizing. The QAnon crowd wants to know about everybody that has been protected by the refusal to release the files, and for once I think obliging them would be a good thing to do.
This is a rock and a hard place for reps in the house. Vote No on the bill and their opponents adds write themselves. "Would you trust your daughter with this man?" With Trump and Epstein's photo in the background. Vote Ay and expect a bloody primary. Schandefreude and it's not even Friday.
The basic rule should be vote to release the files unless you are in the files. If you vote no, voters should just assume you know that you or your donors are in the files.
I appreciate the fact that you don't rumor monger (I'm pretty sure that's not a verb). There's a lot of that about these days. Some of it will probably amount to something, maybe a lot of something, but I like the reliability of these articles that stick to the hard evidence we know of.
That said, I think we all know the flood is about to start, and it will get ugly for a few people we actually thought we liked who are outside of the Republican sphere.
Also, why does Epstein write like a third grader? If someone wrote emails like that to me, I'd text them and ask them if they're blasted on Quaaludes or something.
Also, Wolff seems like a piece of work.
Also, how did anybody in that Epstein circle spend any time with each other? They all seem, in Epstein's words, "So gross."
Brilliant. Thanks for so eloquently putting the pieces together and suggesting the “whys.”
So agree!
Thank you.
Talk about a swamp!
Am I correct in saying that this latest release of emails came via the Epstein estate? If so, they must pale in significance to what is contained in what is popularly known as "the Epstein files", in possession by DOJ/FBI. The latter, for sure, have investigatory evidence that may well support much of the tantalizing "hearsay" floating through Epstein's emails, and give weight to the immense speculation concerning the content of that trove of files.
The question that will forever remain is this: What will eventually come to light, and what has been previously or concurrently destroyed after in-house sanitizing of implicative material?
Unless other parties have had access to the FBI files and have copied or otherwise obtained facsimiles of their contents, we well may never know the breadth and depth of participants in Epstein's sex trafficking of under-age girls.
Yep, these were just from his estate. There are some pretty wild rumors circulating about what might be in the DOJ pile of files. One substacker said that FBI agents looking through them had a difficult time dealing with them. But I don't remember who said that, or how they acquired such "information." As I said in another comment, that's one thing I love about Jay. No hearsay, just straight up evidence. I like rumor and innuendo as much as the next person, but it's nice to come here and know I won't have to sift through that kind of stuff.
It’s interesting that when Sheldon Whitehouse asked Bondi if she had ever seen the pictures Michael Wolff claimed to have seen with Trump and half naked girls, she blew up, deflected, and never answered the question. If that photo doesn’t exist in the government’s information, why didn’t she just say so?
Her reaction seems like the reaction of the guilty. I don't know what she has done, but it must have something to do with protecting fotus. People don't act like that otherwise. It was just too raw.
This information came from Alison Gill at Mueller She Wrote. She had direct contact with FBI agents who reviewed the material, and came to her as confidential sources.
https://substack.com/@muellershewrote/note/p-178537806?utm_source=notes-share-action&r=9fq96
Thanks for that. She's pretty amazing
Thank you for sharing! I just watched and it gave me a great deal of hope that we are going to make it through this long ongoing nightmare.
Allison Gill was on utube a few days ago speaking in detail about what has been leaked from the FBI agents who were told they had to comb through mountains of evidence and scrub DTs name. She said it deeply effected some of them. Especially the ones who have young daughters. She said they were also not allowed to leave either. Forgive me for not remembering the name of her podcast at this moment. I watch so many of them it's easy to forget a name here or there. I'd guess if you were to go on utube and type her name in it will show you. Definitely worth watching. She's always went under Mueller She Wrote on twitter. But her podcast is named differently.
Maybe this? Just searched for Allison Gill on YouTube.
https://youtu.be/GlnywyvHHhE?si=BcIMB5UOKnet5yqj
Was watching her earlier on substack, The Breakdown.
But that video a few days ago on utube about the FBI agents having to stay and scrub those docs and videos of anything to do with trump was one of her best!
I wonder if that's where I heard it/ saw it instead. I don't watch podcasts but I read her and others.
It probably was where you heard it. If you're like me I sometimes just catch a short clip of a substack Live or a particular podcast. Not having time to watch all of it right then. I did watch all of that podcast because it was full of information. She's usually good about fact checking as well.
The Daily Beans?
https://youtu.be/GlnywyvHHhE?si=BcIMB5UOKnet5yqj
If it ever gets to court, we can depose 1000 FBI agents, for a start.
Rubbing my hands together in anticipation.
Thank you. This is what I have been thinking - repubs projected a child sex slavery story on dems because that's what they do!
What worries me is all this right wing conspiracy talk about Dems and their elite supporters killing babies to drink their blood to preserve their youth and the like. I can’t imagine the people they mention doing those horrible things. But their ( the Republican leadership)
M.O. and past pattern of projection would cause one to wonder if the Republican predator ring isn’t actually doing such things. Some show such indifference to the value of human life except their own, it seems possible.
It still seems like it will be a complex process for the actual FBI files to be revealed from what I have been reading. There is a process, and meanwhile Trump is pressuring 2 of the Republican women who plan to vote yes on releasing the files, Nancy Mace and Lauren Boebert. So, we shall see.
On the other hand, Aaron Parnas (I don't know how reliable he is or isn't, but he seems okay to me) is reporting that many more Republicans are defecting to the side of releasing the files. I have to think that anyone who is NOT directly involved with Epstein will find it necessary to demand their release.
Aaah! Now I understand that Helsinki picture of a shell-shocked Trump and cat that ate the canary Putin. No wonder Einstein got bumped off.
I have always wondered what was said in that meeting that had Trump looking like a whipped cur.
If you want to know what Putin said to Trump to make him look like a shell-shocked whipped cur, watch this documentary, made by a young filmmaker who knew Trump's family in Florida. Putin's death-grip on Trump goes back a long, long time:
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=active+measures&i=movies-tv&crid=15UZ8WQ5IISRI&sprefix=active+measures%2Cmovies-tv%2C146&ref=nb_sb_noss_2
If you don't want to click on this link, go to amazon and rent the documentary for a few bucks. It's called Active Measures.
Quick, before Jeff Bezos deletes it!
Yes. It's very informative. Trump really has had deep ties with Russia going way back. Remember Eric Trumps statement, paraphrasing here, "We have all the money we need from Russia!" Lots of talk about money laundering etc...
Free on Tubi! 😁
I would agree with that logic. We shall see. As we know Republicans are generally afraid of Trump because he is like a gangster. No wonder he was involved in the trafficking of young women and girls.
He is not "like" a gangster, he IS a gangster and uses gangster tactics to force people to do his bidding.
Right, but there's no need for them to be afraid of Trump anymore if his complicity and/or participation with Epstein is proven. Then he becomes a liability and the rats won't be able to desert the sinking ship fast enough.
I have found Aaron to be reliable & relevant. He also isn't the only one I have found to be solid making the observation that all the dishonesty, & deliberate ramming into rocks, is finally coming full circle & rats are scrambling over bodies & jumping ship. Don't know how that will play out, but it's a important point. The cohesion Maga had is not holding. Republicans aren't going to be able to outrun or swim, lol, the damage they are doing.
Aaron Parnas is irreproachable.
Thanks. I'm fairly new to his stuff but I like what I see.
I’ve been following him for a long time. He is very young, was a lawyer before becoming a journalist, graduated from college at maybe 17. He has a lot of contacts, breaks news before most do, and has great integrity. He produces short 8 minute videos morning and evening but also comes out with short videos as soon as there is something important happening. I check in with him first and then go to longer commentary by many others.
Me too. Aaron first!
Seconded
The problem is that this is being done through Congress (we're probably a few weeks away from that, and it could even get delayed until January). But it's also possible it passes the Senate late November/early December. But then it heads to Trump's desk. If he truly has something to fear (meaning the drip of stuff that's come out isn't the worst of it) then he likely vetoes it. He could also sign it, though, if there are others named (particularly democrats) so he can make noise and confuse the issue.
But my bet is he vetoes it. Then it looks like Congress doesn't have the votes to override the veto. But the veto would create it's own firestorm.
Given the rumors that about 100 GOP reps have been quietly talking about voting yes on the bill (after the discharge petition goes through its 7 days of “ripening” and 2 days for Johnson to schedule the vote), I think Congress will have the votes to override a veto.
Representatives will have to face voters over this in less than a year. I suspect that there are a lot of GOP Representatives who are doing the math on that plus Trump’s obvious decline. And they will put their political survival over loyalty to Dear Leader.
The Senate is the harder get, potentially, for a veto override. You need 67. That means the 47 Democrats and Independents will need 20 Repubkicans. Not an impossible get, but difficult. And we're not there yet. There is strength in numbers, but I expect the pressure from Trump will be fierce
What we will need to remind the good senators is that the fierce pressure comes from a lame duck pedophile.
There worry is mostly a primary challenge on the right. Though I'm not sure how much influence he has right now. The firestorm on the right hasn't been about Epstein, but rather his comments on H-1bs and the economy.
plus, idiot Chuck Schumer and his cohorts like King, Shaheen, etc., will probably vote with Republicans to suppress release of the Epstein files. I really, really, don't understand Chuck.
I don't think ANY of the Dems are going to vote to keep the files suppressed. And I guarantee we get some Repubs on this, it stinks to high heaven and they know it. It's one thing to kiss the felon's ring on his horrendous policies, it's another to be seen as hiding a pedo. This thing lives on long after the felon is gone and they know it.
Let us hope so, but for everything that happens with this regime, while I try to stand up to it, I still say, we shall see.
I think he wouldn’t dare sign the bill, but I’d love to see him between such a rock and a hard place.
Yes. I know he has to sign it and assume he will veto it.
Also doesn’t 47 still have veto power?
Yes!
I have to think that there are copies. At least, I hope so.
I sure hope so. There must be a whistleblower somewhere whose conscience is so outraged that he or she will sing & with copied evidence.
You just know there are multiple copies of the report/files in various unknown hands ready to spill in case DoJ continues to only cherry-pick certain pages.
This cannot be overcome. It will be the final sunset for Trump.
As I understand it, the entirety of the files were shared between the FBI, and DOJ
In Bondi’s panic to excise Trump’s name therein! Normal procedure would have compartilized sections; hence why there are Representatives and Senators, close to agents, who have been briefed of the contents of many files.
Don’t the British have the full files as well? Weren’t they the basis they used to demote Andrew?
I don’t think so. Andrew was named in Guiffre’s book.
Who can we get to ask the Brits to release the files??
of course there are other copies.
We need the “John Dean” in all of this to come forward. The person inside the White House who knows what really is happening and finds their conscience.
Where is Dan Bongino? He wrote that cryptic message about what he's seen, then seemed to have disappeared.
In a rowboat slowly drifting down the Potomac, per Vincent Foster.
I guess we know what kind of person Susie Wiles, his chief of staff, is.
Interesting to speculate on who that person might be, Trevor.
An FBI agent who went through the files would be a good start.
That's a fascinating possibility, Vickie.
BTW, while in the body of her book Virginia Giuffre only said "good things" in her brief summation of Trump when she met him at Mar-A-Lago, in her last chapter, there is a long section of why she did not name more names of those who used and abused her:
"You will notice that while I've named some men in this book, I hae not named all the men I was trafficked to... Partly is that I don't know the names of some of their names. Partly, it is that there are certain men I fear naming.... One of those men's names has come up frequently in court filings, and he has told my lawyers about him publicly, he will employ his vast resources to keep me in court the rest of my life... I have the same fears about another man whom I was forced to have sex with many times - a man whom I also saw have sexual contact with Epstein himself. I would love to identify him here. But he, too, is very wealthy and very powerful, and I fear..."
I'd say she did not let Trump off the hook - she simply didn't dare write about him by name.
And I wish people would quit saying "her tragic death by suicide" etc. She herself, before her death, insisted that "in no way, shape or form am I suicidal."
Yes. Also, if she had planned die by suicide, I’d think she’d name everyone cuz there’d be nothing to fear.
My thought also
Trumps mentor was Roy Cohn, a known gay person who died of AIDS. Maybe he had a hand in Trump's education. Gay sex would be the absolute worst thing that Trump would fear being released. The worst.
That picture of DT in a bathrobe lying on a bed, which was said to have been in Epstein's house. Always thought maybe they had a thing for each other.
I always thought that photo looked like a photo shoot for a gay magazine. Not that it would be wrong,
but that Trump would not like it to be seen that way, at least openly.
Could be.
BTW, a while back I saw a short reel on YouTube or FB, not sure which (and now I can't find it anywhere), where a man said he saw a photograph of a very young JD Vance on Epstein Island, at the pool. Too young, he said, to be there looking for young women for himself. But not too young for grown men...
Well, there goes the Great White Hope of Rockbridge, the group formed of elite tech-bros who are working to put forward JD Vance b/c they think America needs a broligarchy.
The first man she mentions who threatened her with lawsuits sounds a lot like Trump.
He does, doesn't he?
I also wouldn't be quick to believe the 'mother of lies' KL, when she identifies the victim who spent several hours with Trump as Virginia Giuffre. Convenient that she sadly is dead snd cannot rebuff this, but also thst she is on record saying Trump was a gentleman (!). I completely agree with your analysis of her having to protect herself.
At this point I’m willing to wait as long as it takes for Trump and the GOP to go down together in a huge ball of flame.
I'm pretty old but I will hang on until the final moment.
Me too arne. I hope I live to see trump brought to justice and that in the future the name trump will become a name nobody says out loud and nobody wants to be connected to because it's so dirty.
I just want to live long enough to see him GONE.
Same, Ray. Nothing less will do for these arsonists that have been doing every thing they can to burn down everything we have, everything we have worked so hard to build over lifetimes, just so they can lord over some sick scorched earth fantasy. They think playing with fire is something they control, but they are setting themselves on fire. "We didn't start this fire", & we can't keep putting it out. Let it burn. 🔥
According to NYT, Epstein was a financial high roller, and more than one senior officer at JPMorgan at least suspected what Epstein was doing; i.e., sex trafficking. They also suspected money laundering. All this to say that if all the dirt comes out, the explosion may incriminate a lot more people than Rump. It may rattle governments other than ours.
There has to be money laundering. It’s not like anyone files a federal tax form and lists occupation as Sex Trafficker and declares that income. Epstein claimed his income came from being a tax advisor and financial planner, but he didn’t previously have a long resume on those. Interestingly, another person who likely has a long history with laundered money for his real estate developments, in this case from Russia, is Epstein’s buddy Trump. I think those two had the “goods” on each other.
Oh, I think you're absolutely correct there, Michael.
Add to all of the above the whispers about Rump being a Russian asset and Epstein working with Mossad, and I think there's dirt that goes way beyond even the obvious crimes. Who knows who offed Epstein?
Epstein gave favors to everyone, wheedled his way into their secrets and fears, and spread gossip, using it like currency. Lo and behold, men seem to love to hear and spread gossip, just like they say women do. Epstein used what he knew as leverage to build his wealth and power. Until he messed w/ Putin, a bigger and more powerful monster who can get access into any prison, hotel, or home in the world.
Julie Roginsky suspects he also made money using blackmail. He became very rich with no known source of funds.
https://saltypolitics.substack.com/p/breaking-epstein-emails-who-is-really
Most of the article is behind a paywall, but I get the gist, Frau.
I didn’t know it was behind a paywall. Sorry about that.
NBD. I got what she meant.
I will always remember how Trump slunk out defeated after his private meeting with Putin. It was so very obvious that Putin had the upper hand. Putin just leapt onto the platform like a winner. Remember that there was no interpreter from America and the Russian interpreter was told to destroy their notes before the left the room. This is why Putin never gets pushback from Trump. Helsinki.
It was obvious that Putin had something on Trump. The easy answer is decades of Trump’s businesses being used to launder money for the Russian mob and oligarchs. Helps pay for casinos, golf courses, hotels, and mixed-use developments. But Epstein videos and audios - quite possible. Maxwell learned the art of selling dark secrets to third parties from her father.
Also there could exist a reason, other than suicide, for the death of Virginia Giuffre.
I don't know one way or another, but she did release a statement prior to the event saying she was not suicidal.
I agree...Epstein also.
Indeed! That hadn’t yet occurred to me. She was so committed to both the cause of being a wife and mother of three as well as stopping the abuse, her suicide seemed a non sequitor. Or else it was an exclamation point. I could find no details about it at all.
Exactly. I cannot find out how she died. If anyone has that information, I would be interested in seeing it. Women with three children rarely commit suicide.
Her co-writer said that Guiffre was despondent because her husband had a court order whereby she could not see her kids. That was the reason for the suicide. She had accused him of abuse and he had counter accused. Her brother and his wife backed up the husband’s abuse. This was all in the prologue to Guiffre’s book Nobody’s Girl.
Thank you. I had not read the forward until after I read your post. I am glad I read the forward after reading the book. It is a very, very sad ending. She was a lifelong victim of abuse. I think she should have alluded to this in her book so her followers and supporters knew all she was dealing with. I am not surprised that she married a violent man. In the book she made her family life seem like a fairy tale. I am so sorry to learn that it was not that.
It made me wonder about the veracity of her book. A life of trauma.
Wow Lucy I hadn't thought of that. It's so sad to think she may have been silenced.
I would really like to know what that "im 75% there" meant in the dog bark mail.
It’s certainly unclear
Is there a possibility he was saying he has been trying to figure out who ratted him out to kick off the investigation and he is noticing that despite all the interrogations he has been through the one person who’s name never came up was his old pal? Is he suggesting to his partner in crime that even though primary victims/witnesses were people that had spent time with his pal, that somehow his pal’s name was not coming up, and therefore he was 75% to concluding that his old pal was the rat, so the investigators weren’t interested in collecting evidence about him?
According to Dean Blundell, Colombia's President called Trump's regime Elite Pedophile Traffickers.
https://open.substack.com/pub/deanblundell/p/breaking-colombian-president-labels?r=f0qfn&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false
I would say Petro hit the nail on the head. MAGA has turned into the EP party, Elite Pedophiles. Elite Pedos for short.
I've suspected from the beginning of the Qanon/Pizza Gate/Democratic Pedophilie Ring conspiracy that it was a simple Soviet-style "Deflect and Project" strategy where those accused of wrong-doing try to deflect attention away from their wrong-doing by accusing their perceived enemy of doing the very things they themselves are doing.
Hi Jay. I just heard that the Washington Commanders’ ownership has just agreed to name the stadium in honor of Trump.
The name will be PEDO FIELD. Yah!
Also, rat poison is already sold out in Washington DC, due to waves of them abandoning sinking ships.
Thank you for diving into the material released thus far.
There is going to be a great deal of non-Trump related material in the Epstein files that also needs publicizing. The QAnon crowd wants to know about everybody that has been protected by the refusal to release the files, and for once I think obliging them would be a good thing to do.
This is a rock and a hard place for reps in the house. Vote No on the bill and their opponents adds write themselves. "Would you trust your daughter with this man?" With Trump and Epstein's photo in the background. Vote Ay and expect a bloody primary. Schandefreude and it's not even Friday.
The basic rule should be vote to release the files unless you are in the files. If you vote no, voters should just assume you know that you or your donors are in the files.
Article of the day for me.
I appreciate the fact that you don't rumor monger (I'm pretty sure that's not a verb). There's a lot of that about these days. Some of it will probably amount to something, maybe a lot of something, but I like the reliability of these articles that stick to the hard evidence we know of.
That said, I think we all know the flood is about to start, and it will get ugly for a few people we actually thought we liked who are outside of the Republican sphere.
Also, why does Epstein write like a third grader? If someone wrote emails like that to me, I'd text them and ask them if they're blasted on Quaaludes or something.
Also, Wolff seems like a piece of work.
Also, how did anybody in that Epstein circle spend any time with each other? They all seem, in Epstein's words, "So gross."