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Geoff Anderson's avatar

It's even simpler than this. Trump sees this as an "easy" win. Israel has "softened" up the Iranian defenses, and Trump likely sees this is a way to swoop in and drop some big-ass bombs, and sail away, to be fêted as a genius, and a master tactician, as he goes on to sell commemorative NFT cards of him riding a nuke like Slim Pickens from Dr. Strangelove...

Readysfgmail's avatar

Israel thinks nothing about mass killing civilians, witness the current genocide in Gaza. We should.

Julie Bannerman's avatar

He might feel triumphant until oil and gas prices soar and American military in the region are targeted and the war goes on and on at great cost … Of course, he could decide to nuke Tehran as the ultimate act of domination.

Geoff Anderson's avatar

Alas, thinking ahead and mapping out downsides is not one of Trump's innate skills.

Marilyn Ostrow's avatar

You mean NOT one of trump's innate skills, right?

Geoff Anderson's avatar

Yikes, yep, forgot the negating! Fixing now

Sooz Hall's avatar

You could have stopped at “thinking and mapping ”…

kdsherpa's avatar

But he's EXTREMELY skilled at napping!

Chuck Lavazzi's avatar

And it will be All Biden's Fault somehow.

VT_Maid's avatar

Is there any reason to think American civilians won't be targeted right here? Do we really think putting Botox Barbie and Temu Doogie Howser in charge of fighting terrorism is going to make us safer?

Julie Bannerman's avatar

We’re Iran’s enemy now - but joining Israel as a direct participant in attacks makes us an enemy at war with their nation. No American is safe from retaliation. That’s how wars escalate and bring untold grief.

Phyllis Logan's avatar

Exactly. Hitching his wagon to Israel's successes against Iran and having just basked in the glow of his Kim Jong-un parade, he's just itching to prove his chops as a great war-time commander-in-chief.

kdsherpa's avatar

Um, I don't think he "basked in the glow" of his parade. I think he was humiliated by the pathetic parade. This threat of war is a way to distract from his shame.

Phyllis Logan's avatar

Perhaps - not sure he can ever show or feel shame.

kdsherpa's avatar

According to his niece, psychologist Mary Trump, that is pretty much the only feeling he has -- other than rage. "Shame" and "embarrassment" are very different emotions. One expresses a connection to "the other" -- i.e., "embarrassment". "Shame" is purely narcissistic.

Phyllis Logan's avatar

Shame is a "painful emotion caused by consciousness of guilt" - no way that applies to Trump. I think it's safe to say he's a shameful human being, and a disgrace to our country.

Jocelyn B's avatar

Looking at the photos of him during the parade, he didn't look like he was basking. He looked both bored and pissed off. Good.

Christina Gray's avatar

Actually that North Korean commentary on that parade was priceless.

Kevin's avatar

That pathetic parade is even more pathetic when you realize that some of the larger no-kings demonstrations in just one city drew far more people than his parade, and there were 2000 of them. San Diego had an attendance of 60,000. By some reports, Trump's parade may have had just 22k.

BShirle's avatar

Did you notice he had Walt Nauta behind him in the viewing stand trying to make sure he didn’t fall asleep. I also saw a video of him snoring during the Pope’s funeral… I don’t know if it had been doctored or not.

Linda Weide's avatar

Let us hope the Ayatollah offers Trump a bribe that keeps Trump out of it.

Joyce's avatar

Qatar already offered him a bribe to push him in.

Linda Weide's avatar

Why does Qatar want war in that region. It can spread and they can find themselves drawn in. Is it because of oil prices rising? Less tourism that is for sure.

Joyce's avatar

Qatar doesn’t like Iran.

Linda Weide's avatar

I guess not. That seems like it could change though.

Lance Khrome's avatar

Not to mention his Nobel "Peace" Prize.

Bren M's avatar

He probably already is figuring out how much he can make off military exemptions if there is a draft.

Hazel sweetie's avatar

Oh my hadn’t connected the dots to Dr Strangelove…. Thank you for the visual image :)

Ellis Hankins's avatar

The simplest explanation is usually correct with him.

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kdsherpa's avatar

Ya think so? I mean, he ended the Russia/Ukraine war the day he was in office, like he promised. He's settled the Israel/Gaza conflict within hours. Of course he can win this easily. Easy-peasy! No problem. /s

Joyce's avatar

Iran would like nothing more than to commit genocide to the Israeli people, and they wouldn’t have a problem killing Americans, either. However, they are not going to commit genocide and neither are we. Israel has already crippled Iranian capabilities, so we don’t need Trump to swoop in like Superman and take all of their credit. If it comes a time that Israel needs us to save her, sure. I’m for it. But there is no need to send our troops to Iran, now. It will endanger military abroad.

Lance Khrome's avatar

Before last November's election, there was much discussion and warnings about how tRump would handle a looming international crisis if installed as president, with his chaotic response to the Covid epidemic serving as a benchmark for ineptness. Well, voters, it's FAFO time, now isn't it? Are we all encouraged by tRump's actions to date vis-à-vis Iran and Israel's unilateral assaults on the country? Do we feel that tRump actually grasps the consequences of whatever decisions he makes? But ultimately, do we know who actually is IN CHARGE of our government at this parlous moment?

Surely it must be vividly apparent that this man has NO idea what to do, and apparently is taking guidance from FoxNews commentators — as Jay noted — who are to a person urging "Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran!", and if past is indeed prologue, bombing Iran will be the decision...that is, if Iran doesn't UNCONDITIONALLY SURRENDER!, as he tweeted in full caps.

He's failed in halting the Russia-Ukraine war, failed to bring peace in Gaza, bollixed up his tariff war, and now another disaster in the making. How can it possibly get any worse? But, we were warned.

Jay Kuo's avatar

So many voters ignored all the clear warnings.

Lori LeClaire's avatar

If Elon didn’t render our votes meaningless, that is. I avoid conspiracy theories, but for one thing, how come no neutral states turned blue? And I’m not a statistician, but here on Substack I read the odds of no states turning blue is one in some TRILLIONS.

Paula Simmons's avatar

It’s not a conspiracy theory. Election Truth Alliance, This Will Hold—both on Substack.

Phyllis Logan's avatar

He has always boasted that all the world's wars would never have happened if he was President. No, we are seeing more world-wide conflicts since he took office, and we may be next.

Christina Gray's avatar

I have been saying all along he's going to start WWIII.

Jocelyn B's avatar

If I were a praying person, I would be praying that you're wrong.

Christina Gray's avatar

I know and agree. The mid-east is a powder keg at this point. With Iran backing the three "H's" (Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis), I can't imagine how this can't go sideways if he acts. Not to mention Iranian terrorist sleeper cells in Europe and the US.

Heather.B's avatar

Trump will end war, they said. He's the peace president, they said. All conflicts have gotten worse on his watch!

Trump proclaimed himself to be the Peace President. Now he is about to drag the US into a war that we should never get into. 🤦‍♀️

The peace president was a lie, like the Bible photo-op, the “pro-life” act, and the rest of it. His hypocrisy is maddening. There will not be peace while Trump is president.

The inability to listen Kamala Harris has to go down as one of the dumber things ever 🤦‍♀️

That's why I couldn't believe so many thought Trump would be better than Harris!

That's why I wear this "Don't blame me, I voted for her" t-shirt proudly 👇

https://libtees.dashery.com/products/74030236-dont-blame-me-i-voted-for-harris-t-shirt

It’s heartbreaking that Kamala is not our president!

Carol Taylor Boyd's avatar

I voted for Kamala Harris, Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton! Elon Musk opened the door to a serious investigation into the 2024 election results. Muskrat stated that he bought the election for the orange blight. This is one time that we should believe him!

JeanneFC's avatar

I think you are both wishful thinking. I think the 2024 election was secure. That is just another conspiracy theory. Too many racists and misogynists stayed home. Too many people raised Incels and evangelicals. Like one poster said “A mouth full of sermons and a heart full of hate”.

Susan's avatar

I think you're right. I think the muskrat somehow rigged the 2024 election with his technological skills. And I think the democrats know this but didn't want to put the country through another investigation of election fraud so they stayed silent.

Jocelyn B's avatar

Yup. Reports are coming out that may support you in that.

JeanneFC's avatar

Cite your source,please, Jocelyn.

Jocelyn B's avatar

Apologies. I have read a couple things, but now I can't find them. Um, stuff having to do with fake IDs being shipped into the US, to allow votes? If I find the sources, I'll post. (It's been a loooong day)

Doug G's avatar

Heather, I fully agree to all you wrote. I'd add that the convicted felon has been jonesing for a Nobel Peace Prize, and I doubt he has the will to join Israel in this budding war. He'll let them take out the Iranian leadership, maybe the nukes, become directly involved in negotiating an end and then say he deserves the Nobel.

Joelle Greig's avatar

Been saying that, too. Just the thought of President Obama having been awarded the Nobel has been a serious case of jock itch in his Depends. Norway will never allow it. The entirety of Europe despises the Orange TACO.

Jocelyn B's avatar

Do you think they would actually give him one? I don't, but I'm curious what others think.

Doug G's avatar

Edit Sunday June 22: welp, I was wrong! He has let slip the dogs of war. This one is on him, but what befalls the rest of us is yet to be revealed.

HulitC's avatar

I voted for Kamala but I’m not sure she would have done anything differently regarding Gaza & she IS on record saying Iran is a threat.

Joelle Greig's avatar

Yeah, but my trust in her goes far beyond what it is for TACO, which is zilch. Plus, she would be sitting for her PDB (Intelligence), listening to her advisors from the Pentagon, Secretary of State and others in the know.

Jocelyn B's avatar

Yup, and we KNOW that he never does listen. Nor read. How the hell did he graduate from college, much less high school?? Oh, right, his degree was probably paid for.

US Blues's avatar

I think we can safely assume she wouldn’t be talking about any “Gaza Riviera” with tRump towers.

Jocelyn B's avatar

Things can always get worse. (That became my mantra in graduate school, and it was useful to remember.)

Jay's avatar

WE warned you/all. Hillary warned you. Kamala warned you. The majority of the citizens of this country warned you. But then people decided to stay home and not vote. Elon Musk happened and provided technology and money to enable a tRump win. Even with all of the anomalies of the election, no one demanded any recounts.

And here we fucking are.

Anne Sing's avatar

Pretty sure the Gaza and Ukraine failures are deliberate, because he has a different agenda for them. It’s all sickening. His adolescent selfishness is so destructive (understatement).

Anne Sing's avatar

He’s made no secret of wanting to invest in Gaza, as a resort destination—almost making a joke out of it with his vulgar video fantasy of intentions for Gaza, earlier this year (feels so distant already). His actions (lack of action) where Ukraine is concerned are clearly associated with Putin’s desires/intentions.

Jocelyn B's avatar

Right - it seems so long ago!

BShirle's avatar

Jared likes that idea, too. Beachfront property, he deemed it!

Charmian Schreiner's avatar

If Fox "news" could be dismantled, the world would be a better place.

Charles Bastille's avatar

The scariest thing for me is that the press tries to get into understanding his "thinking."

Did the mainstream press not see any of the clips from the G6 (and one Psycho) Show?

So many of us warned about this moment.

Mary Evelyn Arnold's avatar

It is a waste of time trying to find any coherence or rationale for anything he does.

He is ignorant and impulsive with the attention span of a gnat.

Stephen Brady's avatar

We should wonder... why Fox is so hot for him to get us into another middle-east war? Cui Bono? Does Rupert own a bunch of defense stocks? Does he just like making tRump perform? If there were ever a true 'enemy of the people' it is Fox News.

Julie Bannerman's avatar

Iraq was a trillion dollar disaster that caused mass deaths, massive corruption and an empowered Iran. The war utterly failed all of the promises made about democracy and regional stability. Its pretext was a knowing lie and promoted by people with the same mindset now filling Fox airwaves.

What did our trillion dollar attempted makeover of Afghanistan achieve? After all the deaths and dollars, the result was return to oppressive Taliban rule. Same pattern in Vietnam.

Israel is learning dominant war power and ingenuity aren’t sufficient for a peaceful land. Hamas remains. Syria’s future role is unclear. Iran is a much larger, more capable country despite its obvious weaknesses. It can still make life difficult for Israeli and American interests, including our military in the region. It can act to drive up oil prices and worldwide inflation.

Wars are easy to start and cheer until the casualties and inevitable undesired consequences mount. Peace and stability require diplomatic negotiations - which always come eventually. The question now is when and at what price?

Amy goes to Washington's avatar

Thought process and Trump's "thinking" is a contradiction in terms. He doesn't think things through, he doesn't play 4D chess. He makes decision at the spur of the moment. Whatever catches his attention, he acts on with whatever his gut tells him. He is like a toddler - look squirrel. That's why his Fox Entertainment consumption is so dangerous. Fox already had too much influence during his first presidency and now without the adults in the room it is even worse. He is way too lazy or too stupid to research anything in depth. That's why he wants to reopen Alcatraz after seeing documentary on it . Or wants to impose taxes on foreign films after talking to one of his Hollywood cronies. Or talks about injecting bleach after getting a letter from Christian Cult in Florida propagading it as a cure all for COVID. If he would not have been rich to start with his impulses would have landed him without a penny on the street. But most of his dumb fuckery was shield by the outsized influence he had because he was rich. We as a country cannot afford his incompetence much longer.

Jocelyn B's avatar

Right - he's been saying, "nobody knows what I'm going to do," with reference to Iran. At least a few congress peeps are trying to reclaim the power to declare war, or not.

Anne Hodges's avatar

I agree, please forgive my scepticism here. We need Superman, Luke Skywalker because they're out of our range to get despots off their thrones. Seems we have many wannabe Trumps Noem, Homan, Miller to name a few.

Dave Leppert's avatar

By now, Iran has undoubtedly moved much of their enriched uranium away from the Fordo complex. Though it may not be bomb grade, it certainly would be suitable for making a "dirty bomb". No, Iran isn't going to put it on a missile and target NYC or LA. However, they could put a dirty bomb in a shipping container and have it explode in a US port before going through any inspection station. Of course, they could also stop oil shipments through the Strait of Hormuz. No country is going to unconditionally surrender from air strikes alone.

Patricia Gonzalez's avatar

Then Dave that would be the perfect time to call martial law.

None of this is good news, should never have gotten rid of Obamas deal

Pam (D-PA)'s avatar

Exactly!

If that ignoramus hadn't pulled out of that deal, we wouldn't be in this spot.

But that was Obama's deal, so he had to kill it. His jealousy and vengefulness got us here.

I hate him with a passion. I can't wait for the next Indivisible/50501 protest so I can make a new anti-trump sign.

Jocelyn B's avatar

Me too, since I had to miss the last one. Is there a plan afoot?

Diane Salois-Hanson's avatar

Since his parade was a bust his feelings are hurt and he has to show how manly he can be. My take..

Karen Bentz's avatar

I'm hoping he chickens out. He is not a peaceful person. He views violence and bullying as a strayegy. He had adults in the room the last time to stop the saber rattling. This time, you have a bar drunk looking for a fight because he thinks it's manly, and Trump who has mentally deteriorated from his last term (which wasn't great), also refusing to listen to his handpicked DNI. II hope and pray that there is someone who can talk him down.

Becky Daiss's avatar

What's left of trump's demented brain still reflexively needs to find a way to say he won, no matter the actual facts. Given the impossibility of a clear win in the Iran situation, his last functioning neurons may be short circuiting leaving the unstable, vacillating creature we are witnessing.

Steve Ruis's avatar

Re "What’s Driving Trump on War with Iran?"

Answer: Distraction, Distraction, Distraction

His actual goals are hard to discern, other than making money via tax cuts, grifting, etc. He is not smart enough to have all of these irons in the fire, so his tame demons, Steven Miller, et. al. are carrying the freight on most of this.

Joyce's avatar

I say it’s ego. He keeps calling Israel’s wins his own. He wants admiration for winning a war, Israel will win. He also loves chaos! Always has.

Charles Bastille's avatar

Susie Wiles, his White House Chief of Staff, is one with the rolodex and the GANTT charts.

Gerry's avatar

More than ever before, Foxaganda is a deadly drug.

Change Champion's avatar

Everything taco says the democrats do or do not do is exactly what he does and does not do.

Christina Gray's avatar

Read Lucien Truscott's subtack from this morning. The grandson of a WWII general of the same name, and a West Point graduate himself, he lays out what will happen if we do go after Iran. His piece from the day before is also excellent, and, it turns out, prescient.

https://substack.com/inbox/post/166288685

Naima  (NM)'s avatar

Thank you for this perspective. Incredibly complex.