Don’t forget “You can’t believe anything Epstein said! He was a convicted sex criminal!” b/w “Ghislaine Maxwell says Donald Trump didn’t do anything wrong and you can totally believe her!”
Don’t believe women, except that one who is in jail for trafficking (that never happened, because if it happened, she was trafficking to someone who she says definitely wasn’t me.)
I mean.... can we just all pause for a second and attempt to comprehend, what would constitute doing something wrong in the eyes of Ghislaine Maxwell? Like, when she says, "I didn't see him do anything inappropriate," considering what we know about her, the bar for what is appropriate is VERY low.
Ghislaine Maxwell was convicted of sex trafficking minors and sentenced to 20 years in prison, and she faced additional perjury charges related to lying under oath during depositions. These perjury charges were dropped after her conviction for sex trafficking to avoid a second trial.
But, sure, go ahead and use Todd Blanche’s—Trump’s personal lawyer!—interview material to say she’s totally believable, you dumb MAGAts.
The NYT Daily did a good service IMO by prefacing their discussion of the emails thus far that Epstein is a notorious liar, and his motivations in the emails are often unclear (though the one to Maxwell might be clearer). Of course, Trump is also a liar. So is Maxwell.
In court, and in science, there are standards of evidence, and the best quality evidence is still held by DOJ, if they haven't already burned it because it threatens the powerful - Trump, Clinton, Gates, Ehud Barak, etc.
How is she any different from Epstein? You can’t pick and choose who can be believed. And, they all are liars who have been proven to have been involved in one way or another.
I read a comment this morning that we have to remember trump is Teflon; nothing sticks to him. I felt compelled to say, "Teflon peels off over time, and gets toxic. And the more heat you use, the faster it peels away." Does everyone know the assignment?
It all seems so damning--as well it should--and yet all of the piling on, from multiple legit sources, causes me to worry about counting chickens prematurely. This poor excuse for a human being has slimed his way out of a multitude of sins and crimes for nearly 80 years.
While the shiny Epstein stories distract us, retiring republican congress men and women are preparing to run for Governor of their state, thereby setting up a 2/3 majority or more republican governors to force a continental Congress to carry out a Project 2025 directives on how to change our constitution. This to me is the crisis and the long game they’re playing they’re only too happy that we’re distracted by getting rid of Trump. A continental Congress will occur whether or not Trump is dead or alive.
And meanwhile Trump and Hedgehog are invading a country that they are sure sent drugs, illegal in the US, to the US, instead of making help available to those addicted like allegedly Don Jr. because they named the Defense Dept “War” which will cost billions to just change signs & stationery. I guess it’s easier to murder others than admit you’re sick. (Find photo on AF1 of Pedo1 with a granddaughter and tell me he’s not leering.)
Many retiring republican congress people are preparing to run for governor of their state. Currently 27 states have republican governors. Republicans control 28 state legislatures. Aggressive gerrymandering to result in republican control of more states is possible. An Article V Convention of States is a process outlined in the U.S. Constitution that allows two-thirds of state legislatures (34 states) to call for a convention to propose amendments. This convention can address specific issues like limiting federal power or imposing fiscal restraints, but it has never been used, raising concerns about the potential for broad changes to the Constitution.
Just one observation: gerrymandering doesn't affect state-wide races, so the governors' races won't be influenced. Gerrymandering the legislative seats in each state should be the focus of our attention and efforts.
Because it's the state legislatures which will decide whether or not to sign on to the Convention of States. The governor would simply sign or not sign the legislation I agree that it"s the gerrymandering that will set up the legislation
But there have been SO MANY things, Jay. I do believe that many of the people who voted for him didn't expect what they got, and yet an awful lot still cling to his legs in hopes of kissing his feet. Then there are the people who aren't politicians....
How long do you think it will take to scrape off the actual orange foundation? Ick ick ick. Just saying that gives me the willies. You'd think Ivanka would at least tell him how to blend the edges a little.
[It was only recently that I watched The Picture of Dorian Gray for the first time, but it seems particularly relevant for MAGA's Dear Leader. If you haven't seen it, you should check it out in all your "spare time." Activists with two littles have plenty of that, right? Good movie, although I don't know how it got Angela Lansbury an Oscar.]
He showed this year that even if it looks like he is gone for good, that he may come back, and anyone who testifies against him, investigates him, acts as a prosecutor against him (or even works for the firm), or is a judge for the trial, he can come after you, and he can destroy your life, your family, and imprison you, even if that means fabricating evidence. I think there's good reason why he keeps getting away with it.
My vague knowledge of Rasputin comes from an article in the Reader's Digest oh so many years ago, probably from my grandfather's collection in his office. While not recalling much of the specifics, I understand the comparison.
The only thing that I think *might* help is if a large number of Rs have the guts to vote to release the files. Unfortunately, his minions have a week or more to make death threats or worse.
Sure, older men having sex with teenage girls used to be a thing, because once a young girl was of child-bearing age that was her primary function in life. It was a biological imperative to propagate the species when life expectancy was short and for most of us our lives were circumscribed by our ability to do physical labor.
But all that changed with the coming of the Industrial Revolution and the advent of modern medicine. The physical differences between the sexes no longer matters, freeing women to use their minds instead of just their bodies to make a difference in the world. We can have time to get an education and have a career, to make a life of our own choosing before we decide whether to have children or even to have a man in our lives at all.
But the men who pursue these young girls and try to excuse their transgressions by saying that they're fair game since they've undergone puberty are denying them that choice. The girls are seen as mere objects, receptacles for their seed, playthings for their amusement, pawns to be bartered in a game of political power.
Nit-picking about whether to call this abuse "pedophilia" is to play word games, an equivocation to deflect from the larger issue: These men are predators, preying on the weak and powerless for their own amusement. They are monsters.
I'm pretty sure that buried in Project 2025 is not only the effort to take the vote away from women but also to turn women back into livestock again. Over my dead body. Are they REALLY that stupid?
There have been so many cultural vestiges that have had to be shed as women have gained ground in family planning, education, the workplace, voting rights, and actual governmental power. This is just one more.
Ordinarily I'd think you were onto something. As in I find it odd about Ivanas 'accident' down the stairway. But her brother said it was a suicide. I'm almost sure he was there at her home. I wish I could remember where I'd read this at. She'd been in a very dark place for a long time. Her husband had taken her children away as well. She'd had a car accident not long before her death too.
Actually, the copiest cope of all is the one that Steve Bannon and others are now trotting out: Trump may be a sleaze, but he's the only guy who can/will do what we want. If Trump goes, there will be no one else who can step into his place. This is an acceptable defense for many in the MAGA base, because they've been hearing it ever since the 2016 Republican Convention ("only I can fix this") and they have bought into it. It won't work with the rest of America, but Trump really only cares about firing up his base.
I suspect as it becomes quite clear that he cannot run in 2028 he won’t give a toss about his base because he won’t need them anymore. I suspect that now he’s motivated by a) grift b) vindictiveness and c) more grift. He doesn’t care about elections, he certainly doesn’t care about the elections of anyone who is not DJT.
For some reason, he is convinced, or is pretending at certainty, that there will be no more elections. He called the GOPs in congress stupid for not using the nuclear option because the Dems will never again be in power, and he seems certain he will have a 3rd term. They came up with a good plan the first time, but a couple of honorable people shut him down. He apparently thinks their new plan along with corrupting the entire executive branch will do the trick this time
I read or heard someone say last night, that Divine Providence is still "working" through the orange blight! There are eight billion people on this planet. I am sure that God has plenty of people to choose from to do His work! MAGAS are still drinking the kool-aid! They are addicted. Ultimately it's as fatal as cigarettes but a lot sweeter.
Doesn’t Jay’s comment about making stuff up as excuses remind you of Obama’s “forged” birth certificate because his mom knew he’d one day run for President of the US & would need to prove he was so certificate forged with Hawaii not Kenya??
It will be pathetic if this issue is the one that brings Trump down, given his multiple betrayals of the US and the Constitution, his destruction of US science and medical research capabilities, his evisceration and criminal (war criminal) abuse of US military and intelligence capabilities, his flagrant, illegal weaponization of federal law enforcement and the judiciary…. But whatever it takes. I am still deeply disappointed in the American people, and their apparent incapability to stand up for the principles the US was founded on, for the rule of law and the Constitution.
I'm not minimizing in any way the horror of the abuse of women, whether underage or of age, but Trump and his minions have done a whole lot of very blatant criming and not been held accountable for it.
Citizens by the millions have betrayed their responsibilties as voters and Citizens of the world’s greatest democracy, the legacy of Lincoln and our ancestors.
But if he is brought down, I don’t care why. Remember that horrible criminal who was finally convicted on tax fraud? Whatever works (but I do sympathize).
I wonder if there is an influencer/maggot out there who will look at the evidence, look at the fact that trump has completely flipped his message about the epstein files ("RELEASE THEM, NAMES OF DEMOCRAT PEDOPHILIACS ARE ALL OVER THOSE FILES!" to basically, "IT'S A DEMOCRAT HOAX! DON'T EVER RELEASE THE FILES!"), and maybe this influencer/maggot will use the bit of brain they might have left that's not been soaking in hatred and fake news, and GET IT!: TRUMP KNEW, TRUMP "PARTOOK" AND TRUMP MAY HAVE EVEN PARTICIPATED IN THE CHILD-SEX RING'S ADMINISTRATION. Particularly during his "Teen USA" years. It is hard to invent rationales that make this bromance between trump and epstein not damning and disgusting.
Is MTG a possibility? Articles recently point out her chutzpah in challenging this in particular. Oh she’s not credible to Dems and she is to “the base.”
She may break with trump re: epstein, I don't know - I'm cautious though. Isn't she the one who thinks democrats control the weather? If she doesn't follow trump on the epstein issue (which would be great), I almost guarantee that she still despises democrats and wants us gone.
But yes, she may get it that trump "doth protest too much" and is a pedophile. The cracks in maga and in trump's protective republican candy coating are widening. :)
Don’t forget “You can’t believe anything Epstein said! He was a convicted sex criminal!” b/w “Ghislaine Maxwell says Donald Trump didn’t do anything wrong and you can totally believe her!”
Don’t believe women, except that one who is in jail for trafficking (that never happened, because if it happened, she was trafficking to someone who she says definitely wasn’t me.)
I mean.... can we just all pause for a second and attempt to comprehend, what would constitute doing something wrong in the eyes of Ghislaine Maxwell? Like, when she says, "I didn't see him do anything inappropriate," considering what we know about her, the bar for what is appropriate is VERY low.
Thanks, Maria, I've been asking this same thing since I heard her statement.
She is looking for a way out of this and jail. She is likely saying whatever works to obtain the desired result.
Necrophilia?
Are we sure?
Joke
I know... but I am still not sure. I mean.... considering her history...
(Sure about what?)
Ghislaine Maxwell was convicted of sex trafficking minors and sentenced to 20 years in prison, and she faced additional perjury charges related to lying under oath during depositions. These perjury charges were dropped after her conviction for sex trafficking to avoid a second trial.
But, sure, go ahead and use Todd Blanche’s—Trump’s personal lawyer!—interview material to say she’s totally believable, you dumb MAGAts.
The NYT Daily did a good service IMO by prefacing their discussion of the emails thus far that Epstein is a notorious liar, and his motivations in the emails are often unclear (though the one to Maxwell might be clearer). Of course, Trump is also a liar. So is Maxwell.
In court, and in science, there are standards of evidence, and the best quality evidence is still held by DOJ, if they haven't already burned it because it threatens the powerful - Trump, Clinton, Gates, Ehud Barak, etc.
Seems like there's a heck of a lot of good evidence in the Epstein estate!
Yes, I realized that the PM must be Ehud Barak. Disgusting!
How is she any different from Epstein? You can’t pick and choose who can be believed. And, they all are liars who have been proven to have been involved in one way or another.
Hahahahahahahaha! I instinctively sang the title and then couldn't stop laughing. Ahem. Excuse me. Now I have to read the essay.
I have a feeling there will be enough of us to form a choir. A rather large one.
Oh, Damn. Now I have to thank Barry Manilow...
😂
Quick someone call up Randy Rainbow he needs to of one of his parodies to that word. 😁
I'm guessing that someone has already passed this on to him.
And don't forget, Jay Kuo is a BROADWAY PRODUCER. (I think. I know he's involved with George Takei's Broadway play.)
I think he is. Perhaps he’ll confirm.
😁
Aw, Barry isn't so bad.
I missed the reference. What is the song?
https://youtu.be/sUx4kKPXK1M?si=MXFzTUzKmt1Z6o1h
Thanks. Never heard it before (I lean much more toward folkie stuff).
Likewise
I read a comment this morning that we have to remember trump is Teflon; nothing sticks to him. I felt compelled to say, "Teflon peels off over time, and gets toxic. And the more heat you use, the faster it peels away." Does everyone know the assignment?
34 guilty counts & E. Jean’s civil verdict still sticks to him.
It all seems so damning--as well it should--and yet all of the piling on, from multiple legit sources, causes me to worry about counting chickens prematurely. This poor excuse for a human being has slimed his way out of a multitude of sins and crimes for nearly 80 years.
There won’t like be one thing that causes the orange foundation to crack. MAGA must be scraped and peeled off layer at a time
While the shiny Epstein stories distract us, retiring republican congress men and women are preparing to run for Governor of their state, thereby setting up a 2/3 majority or more republican governors to force a continental Congress to carry out a Project 2025 directives on how to change our constitution. This to me is the crisis and the long game they’re playing they’re only too happy that we’re distracted by getting rid of Trump. A continental Congress will occur whether or not Trump is dead or alive.
And meanwhile Trump and Hedgehog are invading a country that they are sure sent drugs, illegal in the US, to the US, instead of making help available to those addicted like allegedly Don Jr. because they named the Defense Dept “War” which will cost billions to just change signs & stationery. I guess it’s easier to murder others than admit you’re sick. (Find photo on AF1 of Pedo1 with a granddaughter and tell me he’s not leering.)
This.
more research:
Many retiring republican congress people are preparing to run for governor of their state. Currently 27 states have republican governors. Republicans control 28 state legislatures. Aggressive gerrymandering to result in republican control of more states is possible. An Article V Convention of States is a process outlined in the U.S. Constitution that allows two-thirds of state legislatures (34 states) to call for a convention to propose amendments. This convention can address specific issues like limiting federal power or imposing fiscal restraints, but it has never been used, raising concerns about the potential for broad changes to the Constitution.
https://www.commoncause.org/articles/a-constitutional-convention-with-no-guardrails-is-a-real-possibility-we-must-stop-it/
Just one observation: gerrymandering doesn't affect state-wide races, so the governors' races won't be influenced. Gerrymandering the legislative seats in each state should be the focus of our attention and efforts.
Because it's the state legislatures which will decide whether or not to sign on to the Convention of States. The governor would simply sign or not sign the legislation I agree that it"s the gerrymandering that will set up the legislation
But there have been SO MANY things, Jay. I do believe that many of the people who voted for him didn't expect what they got, and yet an awful lot still cling to his legs in hopes of kissing his feet. Then there are the people who aren't politicians....
How long do you think it will take to scrape off the actual orange foundation? Ick ick ick. Just saying that gives me the willies. You'd think Ivanka would at least tell him how to blend the edges a little.
[It was only recently that I watched The Picture of Dorian Gray for the first time, but it seems particularly relevant for MAGA's Dear Leader. If you haven't seen it, you should check it out in all your "spare time." Activists with two littles have plenty of that, right? Good movie, although I don't know how it got Angela Lansbury an Oscar.]
Well said
He showed this year that even if it looks like he is gone for good, that he may come back, and anyone who testifies against him, investigates him, acts as a prosecutor against him (or even works for the firm), or is a judge for the trial, he can come after you, and he can destroy your life, your family, and imprison you, even if that means fabricating evidence. I think there's good reason why he keeps getting away with it.
“Looks like he’s gone for good.” Like Rasputin.
My vague knowledge of Rasputin comes from an article in the Reader's Digest oh so many years ago, probably from my grandfather's collection in his office. While not recalling much of the specifics, I understand the comparison.
The only thing that I think *might* help is if a large number of Rs have the guts to vote to release the files. Unfortunately, his minions have a week or more to make death threats or worse.
Regardless 47 would have to sign it into law. What are the chances? (1 in a hundred gazillion or less?)
SO, it's TIME to change that up, FGS!
Substack says this is a reply to me, but I'm having trouble figuring out to which comment you are responding.
Sure, older men having sex with teenage girls used to be a thing, because once a young girl was of child-bearing age that was her primary function in life. It was a biological imperative to propagate the species when life expectancy was short and for most of us our lives were circumscribed by our ability to do physical labor.
But all that changed with the coming of the Industrial Revolution and the advent of modern medicine. The physical differences between the sexes no longer matters, freeing women to use their minds instead of just their bodies to make a difference in the world. We can have time to get an education and have a career, to make a life of our own choosing before we decide whether to have children or even to have a man in our lives at all.
But the men who pursue these young girls and try to excuse their transgressions by saying that they're fair game since they've undergone puberty are denying them that choice. The girls are seen as mere objects, receptacles for their seed, playthings for their amusement, pawns to be bartered in a game of political power.
Nit-picking about whether to call this abuse "pedophilia" is to play word games, an equivocation to deflect from the larger issue: These men are predators, preying on the weak and powerless for their own amusement. They are monsters.
These are likely the same men who are talking about repealing the 19th amendment that gave women the right to vote.
Yup.
"How we get from there to 'the Democrats killed her' is something only a peer-reviewed, longitudinal study of the MAGA brain might one day explain."
Good thing I wasn't drinking anything when I read that line otherwise I would have spit it out laughing.
Right, me too.
I'm pretty sure that buried in Project 2025 is not only the effort to take the vote away from women but also to turn women back into livestock again. Over my dead body. Are they REALLY that stupid?
There have been so many cultural vestiges that have had to be shed as women have gained ground in family planning, education, the workplace, voting rights, and actual governmental power. This is just one more.
Child rape. Violence.
There are LAWS.
Poor Virginia Giuffre, even her death is being manipulated and used to serve as a narrative to protect Trump.
Her family has been strongly defending her! They are not going to back down.
Anybody else suspect it was not suicide?
Or that accident not an “ accident”.
You dont fight that hard in life to take your own life near the finish line.
Ordinarily I'd think you were onto something. As in I find it odd about Ivanas 'accident' down the stairway. But her brother said it was a suicide. I'm almost sure he was there at her home. I wish I could remember where I'd read this at. She'd been in a very dark place for a long time. Her husband had taken her children away as well. She'd had a car accident not long before her death too.
Right!! It’s sickening.
Actually, the copiest cope of all is the one that Steve Bannon and others are now trotting out: Trump may be a sleaze, but he's the only guy who can/will do what we want. If Trump goes, there will be no one else who can step into his place. This is an acceptable defense for many in the MAGA base, because they've been hearing it ever since the 2016 Republican Convention ("only I can fix this") and they have bought into it. It won't work with the rest of America, but Trump really only cares about firing up his base.
I suspect as it becomes quite clear that he cannot run in 2028 he won’t give a toss about his base because he won’t need them anymore. I suspect that now he’s motivated by a) grift b) vindictiveness and c) more grift. He doesn’t care about elections, he certainly doesn’t care about the elections of anyone who is not DJT.
Nailed, nailed, and renailed it.
For some reason, he is convinced, or is pretending at certainty, that there will be no more elections. He called the GOPs in congress stupid for not using the nuclear option because the Dems will never again be in power, and he seems certain he will have a 3rd term. They came up with a good plan the first time, but a couple of honorable people shut him down. He apparently thinks their new plan along with corrupting the entire executive branch will do the trick this time
I read or heard someone say last night, that Divine Providence is still "working" through the orange blight! There are eight billion people on this planet. I am sure that God has plenty of people to choose from to do His work! MAGAS are still drinking the kool-aid! They are addicted. Ultimately it's as fatal as cigarettes but a lot sweeter.
That " Pool " is ridiculously shallow.
and horribly green
Full of feces, it is.
Yes! I should have said brown
I'm color blind so I might not be able to tell the difference lol
Nice!
(I **adore** Schadenfriday!!)
This snark is so delicious I’ll be feasting on it all day! Thanks Jay :)
Doesn’t Jay’s comment about making stuff up as excuses remind you of Obama’s “forged” birth certificate because his mom knew he’d one day run for President of the US & would need to prove he was so certificate forged with Hawaii not Kenya??
Indeed (alas)!
Good reporting on an ugly subject. They defend the indefensible.
It will be pathetic if this issue is the one that brings Trump down, given his multiple betrayals of the US and the Constitution, his destruction of US science and medical research capabilities, his evisceration and criminal (war criminal) abuse of US military and intelligence capabilities, his flagrant, illegal weaponization of federal law enforcement and the judiciary…. But whatever it takes. I am still deeply disappointed in the American people, and their apparent incapability to stand up for the principles the US was founded on, for the rule of law and the Constitution.
I'm not minimizing in any way the horror of the abuse of women, whether underage or of age, but Trump and his minions have done a whole lot of very blatant criming and not been held accountable for it.
I couldnt agree more.
Citizens by the millions have betrayed their responsibilties as voters and Citizens of the world’s greatest democracy, the legacy of Lincoln and our ancestors.
Time to pick up the pieces.
I still say there are more of us than of the MAGATs, but yes, that whole slew of NON-VOTERS is as guilty as the MAGATs.
And JD awaits with backing of big money. He is as if not more dangerous with the Cabinet likely to remain. They all need to go for so many reasons.
But if he is brought down, I don’t care why. Remember that horrible criminal who was finally convicted on tax fraud? Whatever works (but I do sympathize).
Al Capone, he died of tertiary syphilis, after moving to Florida (upon his release from prison.) another thing he and trump may have in common.
Thank you. That was the name I couldn't come up with, pre-coffee! Do you think 47 may have an STD? I could believe that!
You are welcome, I have those moments as well. I am sometimes sure of it, although his father had a decade of dementia, so it could merely be genetic.
I wonder if there is an influencer/maggot out there who will look at the evidence, look at the fact that trump has completely flipped his message about the epstein files ("RELEASE THEM, NAMES OF DEMOCRAT PEDOPHILIACS ARE ALL OVER THOSE FILES!" to basically, "IT'S A DEMOCRAT HOAX! DON'T EVER RELEASE THE FILES!"), and maybe this influencer/maggot will use the bit of brain they might have left that's not been soaking in hatred and fake news, and GET IT!: TRUMP KNEW, TRUMP "PARTOOK" AND TRUMP MAY HAVE EVEN PARTICIPATED IN THE CHILD-SEX RING'S ADMINISTRATION. Particularly during his "Teen USA" years. It is hard to invent rationales that make this bromance between trump and epstein not damning and disgusting.
Is MTG a possibility? Articles recently point out her chutzpah in challenging this in particular. Oh she’s not credible to Dems and she is to “the base.”
She may break with trump re: epstein, I don't know - I'm cautious though. Isn't she the one who thinks democrats control the weather? If she doesn't follow trump on the epstein issue (which would be great), I almost guarantee that she still despises democrats and wants us gone.
But yes, she may get it that trump "doth protest too much" and is a pedophile. The cracks in maga and in trump's protective republican candy coating are widening. :)
It’s Jews with Space lasers that control the weather!
Ah. Even better…! 😅
Fingers crossed!
In the words of the immortal Barry Manilow: "Both feet on the gas pedal! We got a serial child rapist to catch!"
I'm not sure he said that , but a certain song is in my head so let's just pretend he did.
You might be thinking of "He Can't Date Twenty-Fiiiiiiive"
I can always count on you, Jay, to parse the pedos. Keep up the good work.
I have a KC and the Sunshine Band rewrite: Keep it coming out, keep it coming out, don't stop it now, don't stop it, no!!!