174 Comments

These clowns ARE the party.

They want to talk to real hostages? Most of the folks who spent 444 days in the bag in Iran from November 4, 1979, to January 20, 1980, are still alive. Ask them.

Three of those poor folks got so depressed from the trauma of the experience, they committed suicide.

The traitors who attacked the Capitol are NOT "hostages." They are imprisoned for a reason. They are convicted felons who tried to overthrow the government, kill our elected leaders, and make the world safe for methamphetamine consumption and Alex Jones's ratings picture.

Expand full comment

One of the hostages, Kathryn Koob, wrote a book about her experiences. Guest of the Revolution is still available.

Expand full comment

I think she was one of the few women who did the entire 444 days.

Expand full comment

Correct, one of two that did the full 444. My wife’s cousin was one of the women that was in the earlier release group.

Expand full comment

Tell your wife's cousin, when you can, that I have the utmost respect and admiration for her valor under such unspeakable terror.

I hope she is doing well.

Expand full comment

I’ve never met the woman. Her story was told to me by my now passed father-in-law. My wife, younger than I, only vaguely remembers her when it happened. I’ve been told the widely published photograph of the first group being released shows a woman with short just above shoulder length blonde hair in the group of released women. That’s her.

Expand full comment

Understood.

Nonetheless, I do hope her life has been better in the ensuing years. I am reminded of one of the hostages, who was freed in 1981. He was recovering at the Army hospital in Wiesbaden when some pals offered to take him for a couple of weeks of driving around the Rhineland, enjoying scenery, strudel, and beer.

He told the doctors and staff he was taking up the offer. The staff was shocked. They had a big agenda of medical checks and debriefings scheduled. He couldn't just leave.

The ex-hostage snapped. "Am I a prisoner?"

The staff looked horrified.

The ex-hostage spent the next few weeks on the Rhineland road, quaffing beer.

Expand full comment

I've been confused about how open the MAGA congresspeople are about discussing official business with Trump. "I talk to him every day," some have bragged. Johnson says he needs to discuss the budget with Trump to make sure he approves. Isn't this totally wrong? Isn't Trump's security clearance over and this is equivalent to discussing congressional business with any civilian who is facing multiple criminal indictments? But worse than that, they say they give this civilian final say. This feels illegal.

Expand full comment

Why do you think Trump likes to claim "Obama's still in charge"? Every accusation is an admission.

Expand full comment

Expand full comment
Jan 12·edited Jan 12Liked by Jay Kuo

For the most part, we aren't talking about classified information here. Consulting about a budget proposal with party leaders and others who may provide input is fairly routine; I don't think there's a fundamental problem with that process. In the contrary, Congresspeople should have more, not less, input, including even from ordinary citizens to better understand what's needed.

Of course, Trump doesn't deserve that status.

Expand full comment

I have no reason to believe classified matters aren't being discussed with Trump when the extremists carry on like he is the actual President.

Expand full comment

Yes I think so too but who may I ask will do anything?

Expand full comment

Well, it should be illegal. But we don't do anything when politicians or the Supreme Court break long-held laws. I keep a link handy about the 2020 election, none dare call it treason, when the Supreme Court did treason by handing the election to Bush.

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/none-dare-call-it-treason/

Vincent Bugliosi he was right.

Expand full comment

You might want to edit your comment to say 2000 instead of 2020…and I always say that was the true beginning of the end of our democracy.

Expand full comment

Congresspeople routinely discuss bills with lobbyists who are all civilians. In fact, many lobbyists originate legislation. That was the case for the ACA, for example. Understanding the mechanisms for how legislation, including the budget, is constructed is important. Most of it is utterly opaque to voters.

Expand full comment
Jan 12Liked by Jay Kuo

Two, spineless bullies with only regurgitated ideology to spew--and to think taxpayers foot the bill for their keep. They are not leaders--they are ideologues. Ideologues don’t know how to actually “lead.” They love attention; they stir up crowds; they exert power over their coterie of sycophants... but that’s not leadership. It amounts to spreading propaganda the way a fungus releases spores. REAL LEADERS have a philosophy, hopefully based on a moral compass. REAL LEADERS know how to problem-solve. REAL LEADERS are able to apply their ideas to REALITY in a practical, productive manner. The White Collared Baboon of SC and the Sycophant-Little Girl from upstate NY-looking-for-rewards don’t qualify as leaders.

Expand full comment

No they don't but they are in the process of crashing the party.

Expand full comment

If the did crash the party, maybe that's a good thing. Bring back the Republican party of President Dwight Eisenhower.

Expand full comment

That’s long gone. . . Today the RNC operates as an organized crime syndicate with Neo nazi fascist billionaires installing puppets. NOT ONE Repug is clean, thanks to “Citizens United.”

Expand full comment

I think both parties are susceptible to the bribes. Just right now we are paying closer attention to what is going on so dems are behaving for the most part. None of them should be allowed to accept over a small donation.

Expand full comment

Only one party frog-marches its newest elected candidate of the House/Senate across the street to sign an “oath” swearing to vote with the RNC block. Only one party demands its members essentially sell their vote or risk losing funding.

Expand full comment

Stop the false equivalency. Dems are nowhere near these cult followers of L’Orange Pustule.

Expand full comment

That was the second pitchfork-due time. (first was 2020 election) We should never have allowed that, we should have erupted in protests. But it's not too late!

Expand full comment

Well, we kind of have that - these days we call them "Democrats". Those folks came over when Reagan unleashed what has become the modern "Republican" party (although Nixon started that when he quite consciously used racism to improve his electoral math with the so-called Southern Strategy).

Up is now down, the party of slavery is the party of diversity and labor, and the party of Lincoln is the party of the Confederacy. And so it goes...

Expand full comment

That party exists. It's called the Democratic Party.

Expand full comment

Whoops! Didn't see yours before I posted mine. We agree, thee and me.

Expand full comment

I don’t see that part of the GOP coming back anytime soon. Especially with the incredible amount of money coming from who knows where. Thank you, citizens united.

Expand full comment

Our media has been failing us for years, now. They are complicit in all of this. They've sold out our democracy and our safety for profits. Absolutely shameful. That is why I follow you and a few select others on this platform. Thank you for all that you do.

Expand full comment

Would you share some other favorites you follow? I read Jay, of course, Heather Cox Richardson, and Joyce Vance, but I'd love to know of others doing the good work.

Expand full comment

Let us not forget Jeff Tiedrich - very profane, of course - but VERY funny and very much on point at all times.

Expand full comment

Robert Reich, Thom Hartmann, Robert Hubbell, Dean Obeidallah, Mary Trump, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Les Leopold. I keep coming across more every day. It gets to be too much to read.

Expand full comment

Dan Rather, Mary Trump, George Takai, Michael Beschloss

Expand full comment

Timothy Snyder, PhD, Yale historian. “On Tyranny” substack.

Expand full comment

Thanks for all the suggestions everyone! Looks like no shortage of good things to read...

Expand full comment

Lucian K. Truscott IV

Expand full comment
Jan 12·edited Jan 12

My apologies, as you were asking Karen. I am just excited about the many great writers that I keep finding.

Expand full comment

Best of all I feel is Popular Information by Judd Legum.

Expand full comment

Truth!

Expand full comment

News, especially television news, used to be considered a service; now it’s a profit center. Ironically, it was 60 Minutes that demonstrated that the news could turn a profit.

Expand full comment

I second that!

Expand full comment

Maga Mike needs to fall on his knees and pray to his Lord to find the answer… and I’m confident even his God will say, IT’S MATH, DUMMY! 🤦‍♀️ I rather like Napoleon's observation: "never interrupt your opponents while they are making a mistake.” I hope the Democrats messaging is strong and to the point so these extremists can be voted out. They are truly hurting the country.

Expand full comment

His God has two horns on his head and canine teeth.

Expand full comment

I don't think speaker Johnson is going anywhere. He is a rabid right wing evangelist which would make him stubborn. I see the signs of a huge crack in congress it's going to be magnificent to watch.

Somebody please get this Stefanik person out of my face.

Expand full comment

She's really pompous... its sickening.

Expand full comment

I just got really sick of her when interrogating Gay. How is anyone supposed to answer a question with a yes or no!

Expand full comment

Agree. She's a spiteful, transparent person. 🙄

Expand full comment

She's Aunt Lydia.

Expand full comment

OMG!!! You are so correct! Aunt Lydia was an evil, awful, horrible, no good, very bad thing called a person!

Expand full comment

It’s high time someone got into HER face and ask some hard questions, like, “What exactly have you done for your constituents, Elise? You come from one of the most sparsely populated, poor areas of the country. And why do you think you wield so much power when the number of constituents in your district is near the lowest in the nation? Who, exactly, are you representing?

Elise Stefanik’s claim to residency stems from her childhood VACATION house--she was a damned tourist. She doesn’t know anything about the history of the people or the economy of upstate NY--she was a spoiled rich kid whose parents had a camp (that’s what we call a vacation house) on a lake.

Expand full comment

Oh dear Dawna.......how awful to have her around!

Expand full comment

They are all awful; she doesn’t stand out in that respect!

Expand full comment

She is just as bad as the other psychopaths that still are up dumpster 's ass !

Expand full comment
Jan 12Liked by Jay Kuo

Let's not forget Project 2025. This is larger than Trump, Marjorie Taylor Green, Elise Stefanik, Mike Johnson, etc. Also. I've heard that No Name, the group angling to be a disruptive third party, wants to get back on the map.

Expand full comment
author

This is the thing that keeps me up worrying.

Expand full comment

Right now, No Name has been threatened with a lawsuit because they are skirting campaign finance laws and haven't properly disclosed donors. And some names that have leaked out are people who used to support Trump: Peter Thiel, Harlan Crowe (of Clarence Thomas infamy), David Koch.

Expand full comment

Yep - because a vote for No Labels is equivalent to a vote for Republicans - ANY VOTE for anything but a Democrat is that. They are nothing but a stalking horse.

Expand full comment

I'd rephrase it that Any vote for anyone but the Democratic nominee is a vote for trump.

I don't know who No Labels will get to run, but it could be someone who is nominally a Democrat. A stupid Democrat but nonetheless....

Expand full comment
Jan 14·edited Jan 14

That's exactly why No Name annoyed me. They were vague, they didn't have a platform, at least not one they made public, then the donor shifty money problem was uncovered.

Expand full comment

what is that? 🫢

Expand full comment

No Name

Expand full comment

🤬😡🤬

Expand full comment

The tRumpian mindset, with its undercurrent of violence and wildly extreme politics, has turned the majority of the GOP into lemmings surging over the edge of a precipice, while the Orange Gobshite stands off to one side demanding unquestioning loyalty - to HIM - as the rest of the country watch in horror as this shit-show only worsens.

tRump and "his" party are heading for a massive rejection by the voters, and he himself is facing multiple criminal convictions...we just have to do OUR duties, turn out in force, and vote these miscreants out of office, enough so that both Houses of Congress and the WH are in Democratic hands for the sake of our collective well-being, end of.

Expand full comment

There is Noone to vote for........!

Expand full comment

Vote blue. There are plenty of high-quality candidates — starting with President Biden — who will continue to save democracy.

Expand full comment

NO sorry he is complicit in genocide!

Expand full comment

Do expound - using facts and logic, not propaganda please.

Expand full comment

How long is the US going to keep sending money (via Biden) to Israel in order to perpetuate genocide?

Expand full comment
Jan 12·edited Jan 12

ISRAEL is not committing genocide. That is Hamas propaganda, pure and simple. The party that actually wants to commit genocide is Hamas. It is IN THEIR CHARTER. It is literally their reason for existence. I carry no water for Netanyahu, but the October attacks were terrorism, nothing less, and Israel has the right to defend itself. and since Hamas uses innocents and hospitals and schools as shields (crime against humanity, BY DEFINITION), innocents are in the crossfire.

Biden is not enjoying having to support Bibi, but since he is, at the moment, the PM of Israel, that's who gets the (necessary, if you want there to be any Jews left) aid.

And let us be very clear - if Israel wanted to commit genocide, it would have been over and done with long ago. You are victim-blaming because the Israelis have somehow managed to elect a criminal (sound familiar?) with a minority of the vote; the only victims of genocide in that region are, and have always been, the Jews. History, not propaganda.

Expand full comment

I had hoped Israel would avoid even getting to the point where we have to discuss this question. We also need to talk about whether talk about forcing Gazans to "voluntarily" emigrate until there are only a few left, and talk about resettling Israelis into Gaza cross the line into ethnic cleansing.

Expand full comment

NO. Palestinians live there ............how would you like to be RE-SETTLED?

Expand full comment

Especially considering that many people in Gaza have been resettled a generation ago INTO Gaza from their homes in what now is Israel.

That whole situation there is one huge mess. Plenty of blame to go around, and I put most of it smack at the feet of the British back in the 1940s because they where the ones who disregarded the Palestinian population in then-Palestine. That caused both sides of today's conflict to be thrown into an impossible situation.

Expand full comment

That is not going to happen. Israel is not going to take over the Gaza Strip.

Expand full comment

I hope you are right. I don't share your faith, though. Not when at least two members of Netanyahu's cabinet explicitly stated so.

And the Times of Israel reports that this plan has moved beyond idle musings. https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-in-talks-with-congo-and-other-countries-on-gaza-voluntary-migration-plan/

Expand full comment

And?

Expand full comment

And?

Expand full comment

@Jenny Stokes and @Karen Hayes - I don't know where you live, but there are plenty of highly qualified, hard-working honest Dems running for office here in Michigan. But please be clear this election cycle - if you do NOT vote, you will have voted for the clown show that is the Trumpublican Party. Anything that takes a vote from a blue candidate benefits a Red one. You may tell yourself otherwise, but if you are looking for some kind of perfection to deserve your vote, you're going to be looking for a long time. Meanwhile the clowns and thieves and mobsters will be making off with your democracy.

I am an old man, and I have seen them come and go - but NEVER before have the choices been so binary as this election cycle.

Expand full comment

I am not in the USA and I am watching the CIRCUS!

Expand full comment

As you demonstrated yesterday, the only thing the House is good for is comedy. And it's not even bad comedy. It's actually very good comedy. The best, even. But the results are tragic, because real lives are affected by these numbskulls. And their numbers seem to keep growing. At first, we only had to really deal with MTG. Now, there's Stefanik, Roy, and don't even get me started on Gaetz.

I'm beginning to wonder if aliens have landed and are putting people into pods and spitting out trolls.

Expand full comment

Charles, Spot on. BrainDead was a 2016 comedy television series where a government employee discovers that the cause of the tensions between the two political parties is a race of extraterrestrial insects eating the brains of the politicians.

Expand full comment

Sorry, do you mean a comedy series? Or a documentary? :-)

Expand full comment

Comedy. It aired for one season on CBS in 2016 before being cancelled. Although a satire with actors and a plot line, the show spliced in real people. Dems, Republicans, White House staff, reporters as I recall. It was actually quite funny.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BrainDead

Expand full comment

Don't forget Nancy Mace who was supposed to be the moderate. Her behavior at the Hunter Biden hearing was awful. So rude and fascist leaning.

Expand full comment

Who’s the worst enemy of loser trump? Himself. Who’s the worst enemy of GOP? Itself. That quite goes hand in hand. Of course they are destroying themselves and probably a Big Thanks to the Almighty. Let them go ahead, full steam please.

Expand full comment

Problem is that they may not implode. They may eek along getting a slim majority here and there and continually be a thorn in the side of the country. It could be the Night of the Living Dead that goes on for decades.

Expand full comment

I don't think they know any other way but to cause chaos; they don't want to govern, and they don't want to legislate. Like children they have a tantrum when they don't get their way, unlike children they never learn from this mistake.

Expand full comment

"Hostages", really? How about charging trump for making hostages out of every citizen in this country as he tries to sway his complete ignorance and dangerous Hitler-esque platform over the entire country. I'm thinking the blood pressure of the entire country would go down if he were taken off the planet. He's like a case of Rabies.

Expand full comment

Until the extreme Maga Republicans stand together and as a united front, call out Trump and say no more. I’m certain none of this will end well until Trump is gone!

Expand full comment

They will never do that. Even if he burns their families alive. It's a cult and they love their Dear Leader.

Expand full comment

Biff with pick Stefanik as his VP. That's my prediction. 1) Because he loves that her lips are pressed tightly to his ass and 2) because she even more easily manipulated than Pence was.

Expand full comment

I have some doubts; he may be too sexist for a female running mate.

Expand full comment

I'm not so sure. Her youth and big piehole might eclipse him, and he doesn't want that. I'm thinking it'll be MAGA Mike. He's biddable, soft-spoken, a fundie, an originator of the insurrection, and will make the perfect potted plant (like the former Mike).

Expand full comment

Yes I think you are right on the money.

Expand full comment

MTG and Stefanik are kissing up for Trump’s VP position by being extra moronic and clueless.

Expand full comment

I don’t think one could find three uglier people; actually “people” is an upgrade.

Expand full comment