I actually think there was a lot of despair before the election. I think there has been an undercurrent of despair for decades. I also believe that unresolved trauma -- childhood abuse, sexual abuse, domestic violence -- plays a huge role in many people's lives -- much more prevalent than we have acknowledged. These people lack empathy a…
I actually think there was a lot of despair before the election. I think there has been an undercurrent of despair for decades. I also believe that unresolved trauma -- childhood abuse, sexual abuse, domestic violence -- plays a huge role in many people's lives -- much more prevalent than we have acknowledged. These people lack empathy and compassion as well as the ability to think critically. What are the factors that have combined to make them this way? What are the factors that have combined to prevent us from being this way? After WW2 there was much psychological analysis of how/why so many "decent" Germans could have followed Hitler and committed such crimes. We need to do some of that same kind of analysis.
I would urge you to read the Authoritarian Personality by Theodore Adorno, et al. And I agree about the racism and misogyny. I have worked with women who are abused. It takes 8 attempts before they leave for good? Seven times they go back before they leave for good. I believe it is combination of factors, but voting for you abuser is not out of the question at all.
We often use a saying in our house that my husband learned at work, "Sometimes the only way to kill a bad idea is to implement it." I think that may be where we are now. The psychological mechanisms of why a woman stays with her abuser are complex. And of course, there are others who are affected by her decision to stay -- notably her children.
You are correct about implementing it. So basically we need to hope that trump follows through on his worst ideas. That will swing the next midterm and the next presidential.
The problem is that fixing what he broke is going to take time and money and the voters are not patient. (Some voted for trump because of stimmie checks from Congress...)
Yeah, that's funny. I remember after bush-2 I kept thinking it's gonna take so many years to clean up all his damage, and we didn't get those years, we had eight years of Obama who catered to the rich people and the Insurance lobby but Biden was better for regular people, they just don't know it yet. Phenomenally, profoundly ignorant.
I give Obama a bit of a pass. Being the first Black president if he did anything radical people would have gotten out guns. But I think Biden is a better president for the people. I just wish people had seen that but there were so many lies that denied the stuff he did.
Not sure what you mean, that we have already tried it. Do you mean his first administration? I believe that they think he did not go far enough; that the so-called "deep state" prevented him from really doing what he wanted. That there were too many guard rails. Now, he is really going to go full fascist.
There is nothing stopping him except for his laziness. He doesn't want to work. But that is why he has Vance. And Project 2025 is going to be a reality likely.
I recently read that many people criticized him in his first term for playing golf so much. Now, they are hoping he plays golf even more! But who will step into that vacuum? Vance? Musk? Steven Miller?
I envision all of them stepping in and then having fist fights about who gets to do what. Technically, it should be Vance. But Elon has more money and is closer to trump's stone heart at this point. And Miller is frightening, so they just might let him do the really objectionable things to keep their hands not so dirty...
I actually think there was a lot of despair before the election. I think there has been an undercurrent of despair for decades. I also believe that unresolved trauma -- childhood abuse, sexual abuse, domestic violence -- plays a huge role in many people's lives -- much more prevalent than we have acknowledged. These people lack empathy and compassion as well as the ability to think critically. What are the factors that have combined to make them this way? What are the factors that have combined to prevent us from being this way? After WW2 there was much psychological analysis of how/why so many "decent" Germans could have followed Hitler and committed such crimes. We need to do some of that same kind of analysis.
And that is all a reason to vote for a fascist? How does that make sense?
Get over yourself and do what is best for the country and it wasn't trump.
But I think there was more racism and misogyny at play than someone being abused in their life. Why would you vote for your abuser?
I would urge you to read the Authoritarian Personality by Theodore Adorno, et al. And I agree about the racism and misogyny. I have worked with women who are abused. It takes 8 attempts before they leave for good? Seven times they go back before they leave for good. I believe it is combination of factors, but voting for you abuser is not out of the question at all.
So does this mean we have to go through 5 more wannabe autocrats before we ditch the idiots?
Again, why would you vote for your abuser. You can stay with him if you like, but the rest of us don't want to .
We often use a saying in our house that my husband learned at work, "Sometimes the only way to kill a bad idea is to implement it." I think that may be where we are now. The psychological mechanisms of why a woman stays with her abuser are complex. And of course, there are others who are affected by her decision to stay -- notably her children.
You are correct about implementing it. So basically we need to hope that trump follows through on his worst ideas. That will swing the next midterm and the next presidential.
The problem is that fixing what he broke is going to take time and money and the voters are not patient. (Some voted for trump because of stimmie checks from Congress...)
Yeah, that's funny. I remember after bush-2 I kept thinking it's gonna take so many years to clean up all his damage, and we didn't get those years, we had eight years of Obama who catered to the rich people and the Insurance lobby but Biden was better for regular people, they just don't know it yet. Phenomenally, profoundly ignorant.
I give Obama a bit of a pass. Being the first Black president if he did anything radical people would have gotten out guns. But I think Biden is a better president for the people. I just wish people had seen that but there were so many lies that denied the stuff he did.
Seems to me we have already tried it. Why on earth go back again?
Not sure what you mean, that we have already tried it. Do you mean his first administration? I believe that they think he did not go far enough; that the so-called "deep state" prevented him from really doing what he wanted. That there were too many guard rails. Now, he is really going to go full fascist.
There is nothing stopping him except for his laziness. He doesn't want to work. But that is why he has Vance. And Project 2025 is going to be a reality likely.
I recently read that many people criticized him in his first term for playing golf so much. Now, they are hoping he plays golf even more! But who will step into that vacuum? Vance? Musk? Steven Miller?
I envision all of them stepping in and then having fist fights about who gets to do what. Technically, it should be Vance. But Elon has more money and is closer to trump's stone heart at this point. And Miller is frightening, so they just might let him do the really objectionable things to keep their hands not so dirty...
Sounds very plausible.