This has been updated to indicate that the $50,000 Harris is offering to start-ups is in the form of a tax deduction up to $50,000 for start-up expenses, up from the current $5,000.
Is it a tax deduction, or a tax credit? If it's a tax deduction, it may actually be worth a lot less because during the startup phase, the tax bracket is often quite low.
If the government couldn’t keep track of COVID19 payments, why would it be more successful in ensuring legit business expenses of up to 25,000 or 50,000 USD? Why not open a business, run it for 3 years, then sell all the laptops and furniture to your “friend” or someone who will return items back to you?
He's on the ropes! Now is the time to press our advantage. Whatever you were planning to do to help, do more! Donate more, make more phone calls, write more letters & postcards! There are tons of volunteer opportunities out there that can fit any schedule and temperament. Let's bury this monster!!!
Well the plan he is executing that has me worried is that it seems he still has the electoral college votes, or so Robert Reich claimed in a MoveOn ad to me this morning. I do not see much discussion of this, but it is what I care about at this point. I do not think Trump will win the popular vote, but he is focusing only on Swing states. So, who has the formula to win? He still has the males 30 and under, which is a tragedy, and should be addressed. I would say both schools and tech play a big role in this.
MLK, 1967: “I could never again raise my voice against the violence of the oppressed… without having first spoken clearly to the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today -- my own government…”
Kamala Harris, 2024: “I will ensure America always has the most lethal fighting force…”
MLK, 1967: “I could never again raise my voice against the violence of the oppressed… without having first spoken clearly to the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today -- my own government…”
Kamala Harris, 2024: “I will ensure America always has the most lethal fighting force…”
Kamala Harris CRUSHED Donald Trump. He was out matched in every phase and on every question. The last time a guy performed this badly in a debate he left the race. Donald, we’re waiting.
Forcing Trump out would help a normal political party — but the GOP isn’t a normal political party, it is a cult of personality. The GOP had a great opportunity to force Trump out in the aftermath of January 6 and was too cowardly to take advantage of that opportunity. As a result, it is now much harder for them to be rid of him.
Literally, as this t-shirt says: "Kamala removed stubborn orange stains" last night 👇🤣
He will be 82, demented, maybe even experiencing big health issues leading to his “expiration date“. His diet alone contributes to his poor health. President Biden is older and looks younger.
That was actually a different scenario. RFK wanted the line completely removed, to avoid splitting the right vote. A hypothetical Trump replacement would simply take over the existing line on the ballot (and the electors behind it), no reprinting required (although it would be nice).
There is a mechanism, the same one Biden used. The name printed on the ballot is not who you are voting for; you are voting for electors. All Biden had to do is release the electors. The orange rapist could do the same. But of course he won't.
It's interesting that you use a rope metaphor. Last night, bleary-eyed but too full of adrenaline to sleep, I wrote a brief substack on how the NY Times managed in its late night report on the debate to, in two successive paragraphs, report on the knockout punch, then in the next say there was no knockout punch. This morning their reporting was a little more real, but still, I was appalled.
This morning I pushed a bit more cash her way, and will be doing what I can down ballot, too. Whew! What a relief that performance was.
It's amazing how many people do. And there's NY Times Pitchbot, too, on Twitter, but I don't see that often because I don't use Twitter, so if it's not on Xeets and Giggles I miss it.
Harris walked into the set. Walked over to trump, extended her hand to him with a smile, and took command. She never gave it up. She was AWESOME. She baited him time and time again—and he took the bait every time. The whiner whined. He wasn’t ever able to fire back with a shot that landed. And his theoretical “knockout” closing statement was a joke. Please tell me how many policy changes his useless VP Pence implemented during his term. Instead of telling people why he’s the better candidate, all he did was demonstrate what an angry small man he is. Knockout Harris!
That power move of walking over to him, basically trapping in a corner, and forcing him to shake hands was awesome. She owned the stage, she owned him, and she owned the night after that.
Did you notice her introducing herself by name? He was so taken aback. I like to say that the knockout came with her inviting Americans to his rallies, but it probably really came with that handshake.
That was a knife between the ribs, reminding him that she's well aware of WHY they've never met - because he was too childish to attend the Inauguration.
I was pretty surprised to hear today that they had never met face to face before last night, so her introducing herself to him by name and shaking his hand was the right and proper thing to do in the absence of someone to personally present her. Amazing power move!!
I debated watching because the sight and sound of him makes my skin crawl. I decided to watch and boy was I glad I did. Seriously, she had him at hello. Her going over, shaking his hand, (eww, she's braver than me), and introducing herself was it. He didn't make eye contact with her, at all. Her facial expressions alone were gold. And that pause...(don't say MF), I about fell out of my chair. I enjoyed this way more than I imagined. At this point those "undecideds" can take a leap somewhere. They're in it for the attention and I'm as sick of them as I am of trump and his maga cult. #LFG
CNN had someone on they claimed was an "undecided voter" who voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020, and was leaning toward him this time around too. I don't think that counts as an undecided voter.
It' wasn't so much brave on her part, but intimidating to him. Trump is a germophobe and seems to only use handshakes strategically. She took that power away from him.
One thing I haven't seen commented on anywhere, and I'm curious about others' thoughts on this: one the things that many of us on the left are concerned about where Trump is concerned, is how easily he is manipulated by strongman leaders. Without saying it directly, I think Harris did a masterful job of demonstrating just how easily Trump can be manipulated. I wonder if this was intentional, or if it's just a positive side effect of her strategy to bait him into performing abysmally?
This would be a good time for pundits and surrogates to emphasize that point, along with reporters (and moderators of any VP debate) to start pressing JD Vance on whether he is prepared to initiate a 25th Amendment procedure against Trump.
I think we need to publicize this more too. He might truly lose it (if that is even possible at this point) if he thinks JD is gonna immediately shiv him if he wins. He's already been keeping him at arm's length because JD is terrible, let's put that paranoia into overdrive.
As I understand it, 22nd Amendment wouldn't let Vance run for 2 terms as president if he serves more than 2 years of Trump's term (assuming they haven't managed to get SCOTUS to overturn it by then). So they use him as a useful idiot for as long as they can control him, then right around Jan 20 2027 (when he would 80), suddenly he's "no longer" able to fulfill the duties.
I think it also needs to be trumpeted from the rooftops that if this happens, JD and all of his raging misogyny and toadying up to America's tech broligarchs would become POTUS. Absolutely NOBODY wants that.
Vance would in a heartbeat. His only goal is to gain power. He doesn't give a rat's ass about Trump. I always figured that if they actually won, Trump would end up "falling" down the stairs, like Ivana, or out of a window.
Kamala did actually verbalize that fact - saying something to the effect that the authoritarian “leaders” like trump BECAUSE he is easily manipulated by “flattery and favor.”
Yes, that's what brought up the question for me; she baited him more than she really needed to (not that im complaining), so I wondered if the actual demonstration, to back up her words, was intentional.
Yes. That’s why he is such a potentially lethal weapon if ever put in charge again. He can be very easily manipulated and/or bought off. Combined with his deteriorating mental health, he poses a very serious clear & present danger to our nation & the world.
MLK, 1967: “I could never again raise my voice against the violence of the oppressed… without having first spoken clearly to the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today -- my own government…”
Kamala Harris, 2024: “I will ensure America always has the most lethal fighting force…”
Kamala showed more restraint than I would. My comment about TFG is that when, in the presence of a strongman, he rolls onto his back and pees on himself.
Nearly 87 million families in the US own pets, and he and vance want to make dogs and cats the objects of their emotional issues?? Most pet owners are WAAY more protective of and loyal to their pets than they are to politicians. Pet Owners for Harris! 💙🐶🐱💙
That makes me sad because it reminds me of the day when I was a kid when I traded my box turtle for Green Hornet trading cards and then the kid who I made the deal with stole my box turtle. I've been on the lookout for Trump-like crooks ever since.
The icing on the cake last night was when the most famous childless cat lady in the world, Taylor Swift, endorsed Kamala Harris and Tim Walz immediately after the debate. My two little doggos and one very large cat gave her a paws up! 💙🐶🐶🐱💙
One thing that I haven't yet seen highlighted is a moment that was easily missed but which I think is extremely telling. When talking about January 6th and why he didn't take action more quickly, Trump said "look, nobody on the other side was killed."
Probably just me, but I thought I observed KDH respond nonverbally to one of tfg's particularly unhinged moments with a gaze of genuine sympathy, concern, and (deadly to tfg) pity.
That was her first reaction to his telling about lie the Haitians - her look of pity essentially telegraphing how sad it is that he actually believes it. Then he kept going on and on and on; that is when her expression changed to disbelief and then laughing and shaking her head. I loved that moment!
No, that was for real. She truly looked sad for him. It was a remarkable display of empathy for someone so unhinged, and just made me appreciate her even more.
He slipped those few words into his gobbledygook pretty fast so I’m not surprised folks missed it in the moment. Now, with time to study transcripts with a fine-tooth comb, his misogynistic words will likely be scrutinized and quoted more.
Because there are women on the right who still might just change their minds if they hear that. Remember, Liz Cheney felt compelled to call tRump and his running mate 'misogyninistic pigs'.
I think it should be called out by the media (laughable I know). He gave a response at one point stating that the Biden administration was the most devisive ever (of course it was his not Biden's). These blantantly racist comments need to come out. So many undecideds out there, comments like this push people over sometimes.
Point out to any Republicans who are butthurt about the moderators doing a little light fact-checking that the mods in fact went easy on The Donald, as they only corrected him to his face on just three of the dozens of lies he told on that stage. (CNN's Daniel Dale put it at 33 lies total.)
It sounded like so many more than 33 lies…. I didn’t think to count, but it seemed to me that nearly every point he made was a convoluted mass of BS that ended in a lie.
I agree, they called him out on two of the most egregious lies, and pointed out he’s on the record saying he lost. I cheered when they did it, it isn’t much but better than CNN.
Yet on some of the channels after the debate talking to the nut job “undecided” voters, they still said they weren’t sure. Who in the F is still undecided? How do you think don the con would be good on the economy. Harris’s has a lot to do to attack the poor job of trump on the economy and easily show he did nothing other than ride the wave fed to him by Obama. Use facts and attack this on the economy or we will lose. That’s what the undecided are looking at.
I'm sure some people really are undecided, or believe they are. There are some Harris platform positions (eg Gaza) that some voters won't compromise on, as is their right, and I would also hazard a guess that a lot of undecided voters are trying to decide whether to vote at all, rather than trying to decide between Trump and Harris. That being said, I suspect that one of the primary "undecided" factors is misogynoir. That is the only factor I can think of that explains why anyone who is not already either filthy rich or a MAGA loyalist would consider even for a minute voting for Trump.
I have some serious doubts about these so-called undecideds. We have suffered through almost an entire decade of nonstop tRump. Harris has been on the political scene for several years. How in the hell can there truly be undecideds?!
Worth noticing that Trump’s extra time contained some of his most unhinged whatever it was
In effect ABC gave him an unmuted mic when it wasn’t his turn. Please notice THAT WAS WHAT KAMALA WANTED. She knows Trump’s intellectual limitations— he can’t say three things on an issue without going nuts.
This has been updated to indicate that the $50,000 Harris is offering to start-ups is in the form of a tax deduction up to $50,000 for start-up expenses, up from the current $5,000.
It also needs to emphasized repeatedly that the $25,000 for first-time homebuyers also a tax credit, not a check for $25,000.
Also, they have to have paid rent on time for the past 2 years.
Thanks for that additional note.
Is it a tax deduction, or a tax credit? If it's a tax deduction, it may actually be worth a lot less because during the startup phase, the tax bracket is often quite low.
If the government couldn’t keep track of COVID19 payments, why would it be more successful in ensuring legit business expenses of up to 25,000 or 50,000 USD? Why not open a business, run it for 3 years, then sell all the laptops and furniture to your “friend” or someone who will return items back to you?
He's on the ropes! Now is the time to press our advantage. Whatever you were planning to do to help, do more! Donate more, make more phone calls, write more letters & postcards! There are tons of volunteer opportunities out there that can fit any schedule and temperament. Let's bury this monster!!!
I find it hilarious that Trump's 🤦🏻♀️ phrase "I have concepts of a plan" went from meme to merch on Amazon in one night
Since the subject was healthcare, it was pathetic, especially since he tried to get rid of the working system without having a plan to replace it.
He and all the rest of the Repugs happily trashing one sixth of the economy! John McCain alone withstood the stupidity. It finished Ryan. Godspeed.
Clearly a multitude of people took his "concept of a plan" and not only planned but also executed on the plan. While he... did not.
Well the plan he is executing that has me worried is that it seems he still has the electoral college votes, or so Robert Reich claimed in a MoveOn ad to me this morning. I do not see much discussion of this, but it is what I care about at this point. I do not think Trump will win the popular vote, but he is focusing only on Swing states. So, who has the formula to win? He still has the males 30 and under, which is a tragedy, and should be addressed. I would say both schools and tech play a big role in this.
OH. MY. DOG! I just looked on Amazon and there's pages of merchandise for this "concept." I am seriously LMFAO!
No time was wasted! LOL
Yes. I saw the mug this morning as a link someone posted in another Substack.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DGQ3P5M7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3SA9I9ESNSGCJ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.j4sTGGVfcGw-8vy1bicKeZadLganALWYj36orw911pdHd-W8nQJVZ-JQbN5x0m5aehkWbNbJE7ija-NoSQ-v1hx-P1H8jl1mmpNxOxkNvavb8pEmCEijHD2mP4fVNpt_tQCVbgaZVbMH1WxAfjFPTuFmw1souT_1Mlpxgw0oaUwGXgaFRt1gXN3Anoa5oq8H1sE_yiXDvhjRoyfgrcqC6gjkMdWMDR_m6cbbhl2scLQ.x5N1EgSQ43ozF4PTZCRUtcTmcU0yM6frGp9ITwfisXQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=%22I+have+concepts+of+a+plan%22&qid=1726086500&sprefix=i+have+concepts+of+a+plan+%2Caps%2C1114&sr=8-2
They should have called it a covfefe mug.
MLK, 1967: “I could never again raise my voice against the violence of the oppressed… without having first spoken clearly to the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today -- my own government…”
Kamala Harris, 2024: “I will ensure America always has the most lethal fighting force…”
I donated again after the debate last night! Kamala was 🔥
I donated again too.
I donated during the debate, even though I already do a monthly donation.
Kamala roped the dope!
Let him dangle from the rope, "twisting slowly in the wind," to quote Nixon.
Gave him enough rope, and he hanged himself.
MLK, 1967: “I could never again raise my voice against the violence of the oppressed… without having first spoken clearly to the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today -- my own government…”
Kamala Harris, 2024: “I will ensure America always has the most lethal fighting force…”
Kamala Harris CRUSHED Donald Trump. He was out matched in every phase and on every question. The last time a guy performed this badly in a debate he left the race. Donald, we’re waiting.
Forcing Trump out would help a normal political party — but the GOP isn’t a normal political party, it is a cult of personality. The GOP had a great opportunity to force Trump out in the aftermath of January 6 and was too cowardly to take advantage of that opportunity. As a result, it is now much harder for them to be rid of him.
Literally, as this t-shirt says: "Kamala removed stubborn orange stains" last night 👇🤣
libtees-2.creator-spring.com/listing/votek
I don't think there is a mechanism to replace him at this point. The ballots are all printed and waiting.
Honestly, this morning when I woke up I wondered if he'd flee the country instead of waiting for the election results to come in.
They will never remove the Bloated Yam.
He owns the party.
Even if he's convicted and sent to prison, just you watch....
TRUMP IN 2028!
And he'll be nominated....
He will be 82, demented, maybe even experiencing big health issues leading to his “expiration date“. His diet alone contributes to his poor health. President Biden is older and looks younger.
🙏
Except that th Bloated Yam has eaten so much fast food, his body is stuffed with chemical preservatives.
He will live to be 180.
By 2028, Federal Prisoner No. 1 will have died in custody.
Well, in that case, it would be from getting the balanced — if dull — diet cooked in our prison system.
It will not be the result of prisoner violence.
The Bloated Yam and his Secret Service team members will be in AdSeg.
That's my thought. That and being completely ignored, which is fatal to someone like hin.
North Carolina has been ordered to redo their ballots to remove RFKjr.
That was actually a different scenario. RFK wanted the line completely removed, to avoid splitting the right vote. A hypothetical Trump replacement would simply take over the existing line on the ballot (and the electors behind it), no reprinting required (although it would be nice).
They should charge him for the cost of replacement.
There is a mechanism, the same one Biden used. The name printed on the ballot is not who you are voting for; you are voting for electors. All Biden had to do is release the electors. The orange rapist could do the same. But of course he won't.
It's interesting that you use a rope metaphor. Last night, bleary-eyed but too full of adrenaline to sleep, I wrote a brief substack on how the NY Times managed in its late night report on the debate to, in two successive paragraphs, report on the knockout punch, then in the next say there was no knockout punch. This morning their reporting was a little more real, but still, I was appalled.
This morning I pushed a bit more cash her way, and will be doing what I can down ballot, too. Whew! What a relief that performance was.
Scott Dworkin shames them into rewriting their awful headlines.
It's amazing how many people do. And there's NY Times Pitchbot, too, on Twitter, but I don't see that often because I don't use Twitter, so if it's not on Xeets and Giggles I miss it.
Harris walked into the set. Walked over to trump, extended her hand to him with a smile, and took command. She never gave it up. She was AWESOME. She baited him time and time again—and he took the bait every time. The whiner whined. He wasn’t ever able to fire back with a shot that landed. And his theoretical “knockout” closing statement was a joke. Please tell me how many policy changes his useless VP Pence implemented during his term. Instead of telling people why he’s the better candidate, all he did was demonstrate what an angry small man he is. Knockout Harris!
He even tried to hide behind his podium to avoid shaking her hand, but she was ready for him. She said she knows his type. Last night, she proved it.
Good prosecutors are really good intuitive parlor psychologists. She read him like a cue card.
She knows his type...she was ready...she was confident...she owned the night!
That power move of walking over to him, basically trapping in a corner, and forcing him to shake hands was awesome. She owned the stage, she owned him, and she owned the night after that.
She dominated the field, proving trump is actually just a mouthy sub.
She sure did!
Did you notice her introducing herself by name? He was so taken aback. I like to say that the knockout came with her inviting Americans to his rallies, but it probably really came with that handshake.
That was a knife between the ribs, reminding him that she's well aware of WHY they've never met - because he was too childish to attend the Inauguration.
You know, I can be pretty dense. I needed others to tell me that was the reason. :-)
It's so unusual for that to be the case, I think most people didn't realize this was the first time they've met face to face.
I was pretty surprised to hear today that they had never met face to face before last night, so her introducing herself to him by name and shaking his hand was the right and proper thing to do in the absence of someone to personally present her. Amazing power move!!
I was surprised, too! When she did it, and said her name, I felt all my nervousness about the debate just slip away all at once.
I debated watching because the sight and sound of him makes my skin crawl. I decided to watch and boy was I glad I did. Seriously, she had him at hello. Her going over, shaking his hand, (eww, she's braver than me), and introducing herself was it. He didn't make eye contact with her, at all. Her facial expressions alone were gold. And that pause...(don't say MF), I about fell out of my chair. I enjoyed this way more than I imagined. At this point those "undecideds" can take a leap somewhere. They're in it for the attention and I'm as sick of them as I am of trump and his maga cult. #LFG
Totally agree! I don’t buy that there real undecideds.
CNN had someone on they claimed was an "undecided voter" who voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020, and was leaning toward him this time around too. I don't think that counts as an undecided voter.
The man even said he told them he was a trumper.
Oh really? The clip I saw was of a woman, but that just shows that CNN REALLY does not understand the definition of "undecided voter" at all.
Unless their head is lodged firmly in their posterior, I can't see how they could be.
It' wasn't so much brave on her part, but intimidating to him. Trump is a germophobe and seems to only use handshakes strategically. She took that power away from him.
my only concern is that she touched her face with the same hand during the debate!
Ditto
One thing I haven't seen commented on anywhere, and I'm curious about others' thoughts on this: one the things that many of us on the left are concerned about where Trump is concerned, is how easily he is manipulated by strongman leaders. Without saying it directly, I think Harris did a masterful job of demonstrating just how easily Trump can be manipulated. I wonder if this was intentional, or if it's just a positive side effect of her strategy to bait him into performing abysmally?
I’ve seen commentary around this. If Harris could bait him in just a few sentences, he doesn’t stand a chance against foreign enemies.
This would be a good time for pundits and surrogates to emphasize that point, along with reporters (and moderators of any VP debate) to start pressing JD Vance on whether he is prepared to initiate a 25th Amendment procedure against Trump.
I honestly think that’s the game plan. Use TFG to get them in and then declare him incompetent and JD swoops in and we are finished… 😢
I think we need to publicize this more too. He might truly lose it (if that is even possible at this point) if he thinks JD is gonna immediately shiv him if he wins. He's already been keeping him at arm's length because JD is terrible, let's put that paranoia into overdrive.
As I understand it, 22nd Amendment wouldn't let Vance run for 2 terms as president if he serves more than 2 years of Trump's term (assuming they haven't managed to get SCOTUS to overturn it by then). So they use him as a useful idiot for as long as they can control him, then right around Jan 20 2027 (when he would 80), suddenly he's "no longer" able to fulfill the duties.
Oh, I've been saying exactly that! Or there is another "attempt" that is fruitful and ta da!
I think it also needs to be trumpeted from the rooftops that if this happens, JD and all of his raging misogyny and toadying up to America's tech broligarchs would become POTUS. Absolutely NOBODY wants that.
Vance would in a heartbeat. His only goal is to gain power. He doesn't give a rat's ass about Trump. I always figured that if they actually won, Trump would end up "falling" down the stairs, like Ivana, or out of a window.
Kamala did actually verbalize that fact - saying something to the effect that the authoritarian “leaders” like trump BECAUSE he is easily manipulated by “flattery and favor.”
Yes, that's what brought up the question for me; she baited him more than she really needed to (not that im complaining), so I wondered if the actual demonstration, to back up her words, was intentional.
Yes. That’s why he is such a potentially lethal weapon if ever put in charge again. He can be very easily manipulated and/or bought off. Combined with his deteriorating mental health, he poses a very serious clear & present danger to our nation & the world.
Did you say “lethal?
MLK, 1967: “I could never again raise my voice against the violence of the oppressed… without having first spoken clearly to the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today -- my own government…”
Kamala Harris, 2024: “I will ensure America always has the most lethal fighting force…”
Kamala showed more restraint than I would. My comment about TFG is that when, in the presence of a strongman, he rolls onto his back and pees on himself.
I think she knew exactly what she was doing.
Nearly 87 million families in the US own pets, and he and vance want to make dogs and cats the objects of their emotional issues?? Most pet owners are WAAY more protective of and loyal to their pets than they are to politicians. Pet Owners for Harris! 💙🐶🐱💙
I am a tortoise owner and I approve this message! 🐢
Yay tortoises!
That makes me sad because it reminds me of the day when I was a kid when I traded my box turtle for Green Hornet trading cards and then the kid who I made the deal with stole my box turtle. I've been on the lookout for Trump-like crooks ever since.
No doubt! ☹️
The icing on the cake last night was when the most famous childless cat lady in the world, Taylor Swift, endorsed Kamala Harris and Tim Walz immediately after the debate. My two little doggos and one very large cat gave her a paws up! 💙🐶🐶🐱💙
Yes, my doggo too! 🐾
Haitian Pet Owners for Harris!
Yeah, the whole pet thing with those losers is just weird and insane.
Because they have no idea of how to care for anything but themselves.
Those two fact checks were timely and deadly, one called out their ridiculous “baby murder” meme and the other demonstrated their credulous stupidity.
“Bu… but, they said it on the teevee…” was priceless.
One thing that I haven't yet seen highlighted is a moment that was easily missed but which I think is extremely telling. When talking about January 6th and why he didn't take action more quickly, Trump said "look, nobody on the other side was killed."
"The other side."
I hope the special counsel took note.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=3638369709807645
I lost it when he said that. For him to name check Ashley Babbitt while ignoring the five officers who died as a result of January 6th was abhorrent.
He is in such cognitive decline it’s sad. His family should be ashamed of themselves.
Probably just me, but I thought I observed KDH respond nonverbally to one of tfg's particularly unhinged moments with a gaze of genuine sympathy, concern, and (deadly to tfg) pity.
That was her first reaction to his telling about lie the Haitians - her look of pity essentially telegraphing how sad it is that he actually believes it. Then he kept going on and on and on; that is when her expression changed to disbelief and then laughing and shaking her head. I loved that moment!
No, that was for real. She truly looked sad for him. It was a remarkable display of empathy for someone so unhinged, and just made me appreciate her even more.
She was right about the ‘same old playbook’. That only keeps working for those that are addicted to his kool-aid 😉.
No one is commenting on trump's comment that she's black and puts out.
He slipped those few words into his gobbledygook pretty fast so I’m not surprised folks missed it in the moment. Now, with time to study transcripts with a fine-tooth comb, his misogynistic words will likely be scrutinized and quoted more.
That wasn’t worth a response. It says all you need to know about Trump.
Maybe it’s so low class, that it’s not worth of a response. Why give it any credence?
Because there are women on the right who still might just change their minds if they hear that. Remember, Liz Cheney felt compelled to call tRump and his running mate 'misogyninistic pigs'.
I think it should be called out by the media (laughable I know). He gave a response at one point stating that the Biden administration was the most devisive ever (of course it was his not Biden's). These blantantly racist comments need to come out. So many undecideds out there, comments like this push people over sometimes.
Jeff Tiedrich called that out.
Stephen Robinson did include that in his excellent write-up: https://www.playtyperguy.com/p/kamala-harris-debates-rapist-felon
Point out to any Republicans who are butthurt about the moderators doing a little light fact-checking that the mods in fact went easy on The Donald, as they only corrected him to his face on just three of the dozens of lies he told on that stage. (CNN's Daniel Dale put it at 33 lies total.)
It sounded like so many more than 33 lies…. I didn’t think to count, but it seemed to me that nearly every point he made was a convoluted mass of BS that ended in a lie.
Maybe it seems like more because he kept repeating the same ones.
I said that earlier to someone. He repeated the immigrant stuff so much that it could only be counted once instead of 10 times
I agree, they called him out on two of the most egregious lies, and pointed out he’s on the record saying he lost. I cheered when they did it, it isn’t much but better than CNN.
Yet on some of the channels after the debate talking to the nut job “undecided” voters, they still said they weren’t sure. Who in the F is still undecided? How do you think don the con would be good on the economy. Harris’s has a lot to do to attack the poor job of trump on the economy and easily show he did nothing other than ride the wave fed to him by Obama. Use facts and attack this on the economy or we will lose. That’s what the undecided are looking at.
I'm sure some people really are undecided, or believe they are. There are some Harris platform positions (eg Gaza) that some voters won't compromise on, as is their right, and I would also hazard a guess that a lot of undecided voters are trying to decide whether to vote at all, rather than trying to decide between Trump and Harris. That being said, I suspect that one of the primary "undecided" factors is misogynoir. That is the only factor I can think of that explains why anyone who is not already either filthy rich or a MAGA loyalist would consider even for a minute voting for Trump.
I have some serious doubts about these so-called undecideds. We have suffered through almost an entire decade of nonstop tRump. Harris has been on the political scene for several years. How in the hell can there truly be undecideds?!
I think it’s a bullshit ploy to get attention.
Many people are VERY POOR LISTENERS.
...or very smart interviewees. They like the attention being a hold-out gives them.
I think they either don’t want to admit to voting for TCFelon or want attention.
Wow! We needed this! 💕
Worth noticing that Trump’s extra time contained some of his most unhinged whatever it was
In effect ABC gave him an unmuted mic when it wasn’t his turn. Please notice THAT WAS WHAT KAMALA WANTED. She knows Trump’s intellectual limitations— he can’t say three things on an issue without going nuts.
Yes, it was Trump who insisted on muted mikes; Kamala wanted them open. She got that pretty much anyway.
DYN-O-MITE!