Smarmy is an excellent adjective. Unctuous also. And of course we could go all the way to bootlicker. How on earth can anyone tell so many lies at one time with a straight face?
Arrogant, two-faced, sycophantic, boorish, opportunistic, sleazy, skeevy, morally bankrupt, odious, carpetbagger, lower than a snake’s belly, all hat no cattle, snake oil salesman, and all around noxious varmint. Deplorable.
He is so clueless that he doesn't understand that his brand of hate doesn't sell. Perhaps because you can't even know it's genuine. What Maga wants, and gets, from the mad clown, is unfiltered, pure, real rage and grievance. This guy is like a walking AI machine who repeats what the people who wind the windup key fused into his spine are saying.
I would agree with you if the odious Mr. Vance actually had a moral compass but I'm certain he does not. He lies as easily and naturally as he breathes.
A friend of mine has a favorite adjective, that seems to cover any number of administration toadies: vomitous. (She particularly applies it to RFK Jr.)
How can they tell so many lies at one time with a straight face? That is the definition of a pathological liar. The majority of this administration is made up of them and I have a sister who has always been one so it’s obvious to me. It starts way back with a small lie and as one continues to tell lies, they believe their own lies until it’s their reality. They are so convinced that I’ll bet they could pass a lie detector test. It is the absolute most horrible thing to live with someone that has this trait if you are a truth seeker. Thats why liars seek to be with liars. I had to separate myself from my sister for mental survival.
enough pictures like the one in this post and we won't need adjectives, or even words. his party can brush aside whatever sane people say, but will they want to stand next to a guy who looks like that and try to be taken seriously?
And she’s the mistress of the temper tantrum when called out too. She, Patel, Hegseth, Noem, McMahon, Kennedy Jr - comparison of their testimonial dodging and hissy fits is stomach-turning compared to the calm demeanor throughout 16-hour grillings we saw from Hillary. But thank heavens we didn’t elect the old guy or the lady who was going to start a war. So much better to switch over to a clown car while the car is hurtling down the highway.
Once you admit you lie you must accept that you will never be believed. For most people, that’s the end of the story, the end of the public service life. Every news article should begin with, “Admitted liar JD Vance …”
Thank you for this, Jay. I'm a Minneapolis resident and my rage and sorrow is bottomless. The Minneapolis public schools have cancelled school, and are going to be offering a virtual option for at least a month, and I bet others are soon to follow as ICE is terrorizing schools and day cares now. Kids who survived the Annunciation shooting also have school cancelled. Meanwhile, Democratic leadership refuses to make an issue out of ICE spending. If you can't summon up courage to use to power to stop an extrajudicial police force murdering and terrorizing people, what are you for, exactly?
JD Vance is one of the worst humans alive right now, and that is saying something.
The real issue is unless the Dems get support from enough Repugs they have no power. They can bring bill after bill, impeachment after impeachment, whatever it takes but they are still the minority. Not to mention spineless Johnson's actions of refusing to bring anything to the house floor that the Dems want a vote on- ESPECIALLY if he knows they might win such vote.
They absolutely must as it won’t take many Republicans to get a few bills passed, and it can happen. It also makes Republicans actually vote yea or nay and be held accountable. It also helps us realize we are not shouting into a void if Democrats actually respond.
And impeachments. That allows for subpoenas and discovery and hearings, and all of that could really slow down any other legislation that the Republicans might want to do in the future.
They've done this. They don't advance. and the media, assuming correctly they won't advance, downplays them so we don't know about them. WE need to be better informed and have our representatives' back instead of becoming a circular firing squad.
And the House speaker, little Mikey Johnson, following orders, won't bring them up, That's why it took a discharge petition for the Epstein files. Can't do much in Congress without either the majority or bipartisanship.
That is also why it took a discharge petition to allow the vote on extending the ACA premiums, which passed with the help of the votes of 17 republicons.
LHS, Katiejane and Toni make excellent points. Acknowledging the probability of not being advanced, if nothing else, it shows they take their responsibilities seriously, awareness of the needs of their constituents and the betrayal of the American people by Republicans. I’m not an expert, but I believe every bill proposed, and the minutes of each committee hearing, is placed in the Congressional record. If so, this is irrefutable documentation of their efforts, of both Democrats and Republicans, that in the age of spin and deadly propaganda can be upheld as accurate in a court of law. In the Court of Public Opinion, this can be used to contradict the lies and defamation Republicans make on social media posts, and statements to the press. It can be used in future ethics charges, perhaps evidence they knowingly voted against the interests, and caused severe harm of their constituents. Social media posts by government officials and government websites are now accepted in courts as verified evidence that often contradicts the charges brought by the government, as well as when the government is sued. We will need EVERY verifiable tool to hold those accountable in the future. For the fight for justice and reform will take many years.
I'm speaking of Jeffries and Schumer in the press conference refusing to commit to defunding ICE should they win the midterms, or to make it an issue in the appropriations bill, while people are being traumatized, kidnapped, and even killed. It's not a circular firing squad to expect them to stand up loudly right now, to name what's happening and promise to fight against it with all of their power.
These bills become history documenting the Democratic efforts to block and correct the MAGA/Republicans.. They also become the basis for bills to be introduced in the next Congress when they are in the majority. A baseline to be improved upon.
That is not actually true. Just look at what Mitch McConnell accomplished during Obama's administration. They can do a lot more than that they are doing to obstruct this regime. Especially in the Senate. And the house has such a razor thin majority now that they really should be able to accomplish more than they are. They just have to keep those discharge petitions coming.
What he accomplished was obstruction. Democrats proposed bills, he obstructed. So what more do you think Democrats can do other than obsctruction? Please explain based on actual, real-life Senate procedure., not on wishful thinking.
Exactly. Nothing advances unless Republicans OK it, and by blaming Democrats, we increase the chances they stay in power. This is why I've come to despise the horseshoe left.
they do have SOME power, in the appropriations bill, and in shaping narratives. They could make a stand and not fund a government that's terrorizing its people.
I think Stephen Miller is the worst because I think he is running immigration and the foreign actions that will eventually put us into a World War. But the whole regime is up for the worst person in the world trophy
Democrats have not "refused to make an issue" of ICE, spending and otherwise. Our weakness — and why they get away with it — is too many of us immediately turn around and blame those on our side. What "power" do you think we actually have ink the minority? Did you not see Little Mike Johnson actually cancelling congress for almost two months to avoid the release of the Epstein files? We self-sabotage at every turn. They double down no matter what.
We also have to carefully vet our Dems in office to make sure they are not enabling this fascist regime to continue their reign of terror, like Dem congressman Ritchie Toress from the Bronx who voted in favor of the Lincoln Riley Act that removed due process from detained immigrants and has invested in companies selling arms to Israel.
Ritchie Torres' voting record is overall pretty progressive though. He's ranked #88 with a progressive voting record over 92%. He's no Jamie Raskin but he's a pretty solid progressive. I always worry about attaching too much important to a handful of votes — and if they have ANYTHING to do with Israel or Palestine, I discard them entirely. There's too much emotion and obfuscation around that. I keep hearing my own congresswoman, who is ultra-progressive, getting attacked by "pro-Palestine" people.
I think it's fairly obvious he didn't convert to Catholicism at the age of 35 because of some deep seated religious experience but because he realized that there was a powerful base of rightwing influence there (the Federalist Society, Opus Dei etc).
This is not a sanctioned branch of Roman Catholics, but a renegade branch of highly conservative and reactionary people using their "Catholicism" to bolster their sense of them selves as superior. My understanding is that the actual Church refuses to recognize them as part of its body.
I agree with you on his late conversion. My only question is whether the maga christian nationalists will accept him. KKK traditionally hates Catholics and Jews.
"Vance promised to go after “left-leaning” organizations" which he can't define. Let me help here. He's looking for all of us that know right from wrong.
Sometimes you wonder why he doesn't just say "Pick your side: Ours or theirs."
Anne Applebaum provides a useful insight for something like this.
If someone looks you straight in the eye and tells you a lie that you BOTH know is a lie, as well as that you BOTH know that the OTHER person knows it is a lie, it isn't to convince you of anything or to prove anything. It is an exercise of power. The liar in such a case is saying "We both know that this is a lie, but YOU can't do anything about it." Truth? Evidence? Facts? Videotapes? Witnesses? None of that matters because the liar is demonstrating that they can cram the lie down your throat whether or not you go along with it.
Mike Brock had a similar argument today. When you drop an F-bomb after they murder one of your citizens and then they want to make YOU apologize!? Wow, that's deflecting from the issue and insisting on deference. Kudos to MN mayor Frey. Don't apologize for your outrage, REPEAT IT. Make them explain themselves!
Those so-called christians (who are really christian nationalists) who get the vapors at hearing the f-bomb, but eagerly accept violence, make me sick.
Absolutely no one in this country should be offended by the proper and heartfelt use of a curse word. Get over it, it's the 21st century, these words are used frequently in the common vernacular, and your oh so delicate sensibilities are complete bullshit.
Apparently in the rap world that is known as "fuckery". I just learned that yesterday. It completely applies on this situation. With the entire regime.
Excommunication is a process and not a pronouncement by the pope. The Code of Canon Law (CIC) nine sins carry the penalty of automatic excommunication: apostasy, heresy, schism, abortion (CIC 1364:1), violating the sacred species (CIC 1382), physically attacking the pope (CIC 1370:1), consecrating a bishop without authorization (CIC 1387), and directly violating the seal of confession (1386:1).
He can't even fake being human, that clip in Japan where they so politely asked him about his fuckery with Disney, where he just glitched out like a defective android was glorious.
So when Vance said “it’s something we have to figure out” (about the left-leaning organization she was a member). He meant, “it’s something we have to manufacture.”
As I’ve said for years, only Trump can do Trump, and Trump dies with Trump. JD Vance is all the cruelty with none of the brand or charm. If Trump weren’t a playboy and TV star, he’d be in exile already. Vance…well, he’s not a TV star.
Yes! And I’ve heard that many Magats hate Vance. They wanted Doug Burgum for VP and are still pissed at Dumpty for passing him over. (Burgum’s consolation prize was being appointed Secretary of the Interior, where he is of course wreaking havoc.)
I believe that wholeheartedly. There is no upside to following Vance. I don’t see the pull Trump has and I hardly understand it, but Vance is just plain creepy, with zero charisma or character. He can’t live the lifestyle Trump does, which seems to be what many MAGAs admire, everyone knows JD is lying when he speaks, but with Trump, his base believes every word out of his mouth. I don’t see the brand continuing either.
I see Trump’s charm. My wife and I watched “The Apprentice” for years. I get it. I mean, not “he should be President!” but “I get why people like watching him”.
JD Vance has literally none of this. He’s your asshole brother-in-law.
He's amusing (in an often perverse way). People like watching him to see what ludicrous, lunatic thing he'll say or do. Many of his antics that the left condemns or makes fun of are very appealing to his followers.
Except remember when people thought Trump was a joke and could never get elected once, never mind twice! Scary to think Vance could be on the same trajectory
At this point, that is an irrelevant argument. What matters is doing whatever it takes to stop what this administration is doing. We can't fix the past, but we might be able to shape our future.
The "help" he had was from state Republican officials making it harder to vote, a "both siding" media that held Clinton and Harris to a radically different standard than Trump and, in 2024, holier-than-thou far left people who said they were "teaching Democrats a lesson." As far as actual manipulation in the voting process, that didn't happen and can;'t happen as the system exists now, although the GOP has tried here and there to change it. We need to look at what is REALLY happening and work against that, not promote scary fantasies.
Trump always had celebrity and public fascination on his side. He had people who perceived him, rightly or wrongly, as a successful business man. And he has some weird charisma where his followers perceive him as strong, tough and manly. Vance has none of that — zip, zero, nada. And he's not going to produce it out of thin air.
That's why I'm moving to Mexico before I even have to watch that train wreck occur in slow motion. I'll still vote for whomever the Democratic candidate is of course, even if I have to come back to do it.
I learned yesterday that not all Dems are going to take action. Case in point...Dem Congressman Ritchie Toress from the Bronx. He voted in favor of the Lincoln Riley act that eliminates the right to due process for immigrants detained by ICE. In addition, he has invested in companies selling arms to Israel. Not all Dems are created equal. Takes some vetting.
Why they believe the lies and propaganda is partially due to Basic Cult Behavior/Mob Mentality 101. Those explain both but do not excuse either. After that you have to remember that a majority of maga are willingly, even gleefully, maga because they hold the same vile, disgusting racist, misogynistic, homophobic, transphobic and bigoted beliefs as trump, vance and miller et al do - right down the line.
A worthy target for self-care outrage. Would you please consider doing a piece on the likelihood of legal repercussions for the shooter? There are so many scenarios in which nothing happens. Could you tell us what the legal probabilities are?
I thoroughly enjoy hearing your validation of my sentiments. However, I rarely hear outrage from the right. I email my Republican senator fairly regularly about his choices during these times. I always get a decent form letter back. I figure it’s one of the few things that I can do. Thank you.
I email all all three of my republicon reps here in Ohio. I get the same old, tired form letter back every time from former used car salesman Senator Bernie Moreno. "Thank you for your email. I want to know what Ohioans care about...blah, blah, blah". Worthless. Once in a while I get a more specific response from Senator Husted, but his response to the illegal invasion of Venezuela was filled with talking points from the republicon script, "...drugs, bad man, blah, blah, blah." I get no response from my Congressman Dave Joyce, a moderate, who has chosen to hide in a foxhole and not make statements or respond to emails.
Smarmy is an excellent adjective. Unctuous also. And of course we could go all the way to bootlicker. How on earth can anyone tell so many lies at one time with a straight face?
Arrogant, two-faced, sycophantic, boorish, opportunistic, sleazy, skeevy, morally bankrupt, odious, carpetbagger, lower than a snake’s belly, all hat no cattle, snake oil salesman, and all around noxious varmint. Deplorable.
Slimy toe-rag
Is “big asshole” also an adjective?
😂😂
Both perfect adjectives. Pompous and condescending as well.
Smunctuous😝
Smunctumonious, to take it a step further
I love these coinages!
He is so clueless that he doesn't understand that his brand of hate doesn't sell. Perhaps because you can't even know it's genuine. What Maga wants, and gets, from the mad clown, is unfiltered, pure, real rage and grievance. This guy is like a walking AI machine who repeats what the people who wind the windup key fused into his spine are saying.
Oleaginous
I had to look it up. Thank you!
One of my faves!
Oh, nice!!!
Lying continually with a straight face comes easily to a person whose moral compass just keeps spinning 'round and 'round and 'round
I would agree with you if the odious Mr. Vance actually had a moral compass but I'm certain he does not. He lies as easily and naturally as he breathes.
He has a moral tilt-whirl
A friend of mine has a favorite adjective, that seems to cover any number of administration toadies: vomitous. (She particularly applies it to RFK Jr.)
“Miserable vomitous mass” is one of my favorite quotes from The Princess Bride!
How can they tell so many lies at one time with a straight face? That is the definition of a pathological liar. The majority of this administration is made up of them and I have a sister who has always been one so it’s obvious to me. It starts way back with a small lie and as one continues to tell lies, they believe their own lies until it’s their reality. They are so convinced that I’ll bet they could pass a lie detector test. It is the absolute most horrible thing to live with someone that has this trait if you are a truth seeker. Thats why liars seek to be with liars. I had to separate myself from my sister for mental survival.
I am glad for your sense and ability to get away. Hopefully we manage the same level of realization nationally.
I’d suggest “oily” also, but MAGAts would probably view it as a compliment.
Good giggle, Chris.
I also like obsequious
I guess he gives us all an easy setup for half of those “use this word in a sentence” vocabulary questions, lol
enough pictures like the one in this post and we won't need adjectives, or even words. his party can brush aside whatever sane people say, but will they want to stand next to a guy who looks like that and try to be taken seriously?
...slimy, conman, demagogue, snake oil salesman, gaslighter, craven, despicable, deplorable slippery, slick, greasy, oily, creepy, yucky, loathsome, abominable, odious, sleazy, repugnant, repulsive, repellent, revolting, vomitous, nauseating, disgusting, hideous, abhorrent, vile, execrable, knave, scoundrel, grifter, charlatan, deceiver, fraud, phony, fabulist, fabricator, prevaricator, liar, troublemaker, shyster, unscrupulous, ignoble, reprobate...
Magnificent!!! 100% credit on your homework :)
He’s learned from the most prolific liar on the planet: his boss! That whole cabal makes me want to vomit.
Hard to look at and impossible to listen to for more than a few seconds
Run Usha run! You can do better!
His tutor, Karo-lyin’ Leavitt is teaching him well.
And she’s the mistress of the temper tantrum when called out too. She, Patel, Hegseth, Noem, McMahon, Kennedy Jr - comparison of their testimonial dodging and hissy fits is stomach-turning compared to the calm demeanor throughout 16-hour grillings we saw from Hillary. But thank heavens we didn’t elect the old guy or the lady who was going to start a war. So much better to switch over to a clown car while the car is hurtling down the highway.
Once you admit you lie you must accept that you will never be believed. For most people, that’s the end of the story, the end of the public service life. Every news article should begin with, “Admitted liar JD Vance …”
Minor edit: "Self-described liar, JD Vance..."
Absolutely. "Proven liar" would work too...
And yet the cult still believes every lie! :-/
He bragged that he lied, like nobody had thought of doing it before he did. He’s a genius.
Yes that’s his handle: Admitted Liar JD Vance
And he lied when he said his name is JD Vance
Ya revolting fits!
I love that!
Thank you for this, Jay. I'm a Minneapolis resident and my rage and sorrow is bottomless. The Minneapolis public schools have cancelled school, and are going to be offering a virtual option for at least a month, and I bet others are soon to follow as ICE is terrorizing schools and day cares now. Kids who survived the Annunciation shooting also have school cancelled. Meanwhile, Democratic leadership refuses to make an issue out of ICE spending. If you can't summon up courage to use to power to stop an extrajudicial police force murdering and terrorizing people, what are you for, exactly?
JD Vance is one of the worst humans alive right now, and that is saying something.
The real issue is unless the Dems get support from enough Repugs they have no power. They can bring bill after bill, impeachment after impeachment, whatever it takes but they are still the minority. Not to mention spineless Johnson's actions of refusing to bring anything to the house floor that the Dems want a vote on- ESPECIALLY if he knows they might win such vote.
They still should bring those bills, and fight for them, so they are on the record for NOT acquiescing to the regimen's demands and sickness.
They absolutely must as it won’t take many Republicans to get a few bills passed, and it can happen. It also makes Republicans actually vote yea or nay and be held accountable. It also helps us realize we are not shouting into a void if Democrats actually respond.
And impeachments. That allows for subpoenas and discovery and hearings, and all of that could really slow down any other legislation that the Republicans might want to do in the future.
I agree. The shutdown based on ACA tax credits seems to be the first time they were able to get out a message
They've done this. They don't advance. and the media, assuming correctly they won't advance, downplays them so we don't know about them. WE need to be better informed and have our representatives' back instead of becoming a circular firing squad.
And the House speaker, little Mikey Johnson, following orders, won't bring them up, That's why it took a discharge petition for the Epstein files. Can't do much in Congress without either the majority or bipartisanship.
Mikey is terrified of getting that angry call from Trump. He'l go down in history as the worst and weakest speaker ever.
Speaker or Squeeker?
That is also why it took a discharge petition to allow the vote on extending the ACA premiums, which passed with the help of the votes of 17 republicons.
LHS, Katiejane and Toni make excellent points. Acknowledging the probability of not being advanced, if nothing else, it shows they take their responsibilities seriously, awareness of the needs of their constituents and the betrayal of the American people by Republicans. I’m not an expert, but I believe every bill proposed, and the minutes of each committee hearing, is placed in the Congressional record. If so, this is irrefutable documentation of their efforts, of both Democrats and Republicans, that in the age of spin and deadly propaganda can be upheld as accurate in a court of law. In the Court of Public Opinion, this can be used to contradict the lies and defamation Republicans make on social media posts, and statements to the press. It can be used in future ethics charges, perhaps evidence they knowingly voted against the interests, and caused severe harm of their constituents. Social media posts by government officials and government websites are now accepted in courts as verified evidence that often contradicts the charges brought by the government, as well as when the government is sued. We will need EVERY verifiable tool to hold those accountable in the future. For the fight for justice and reform will take many years.
I'm speaking of Jeffries and Schumer in the press conference refusing to commit to defunding ICE should they win the midterms, or to make it an issue in the appropriations bill, while people are being traumatized, kidnapped, and even killed. It's not a circular firing squad to expect them to stand up loudly right now, to name what's happening and promise to fight against it with all of their power.
Here is the information:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/democrats-ice-shooting-minnesota-funding-b2896967.html
👆🎯Yep, the press thinks political bills and actual policy is boring. They are too busy fluffing trump.
Well, what was it, 17 repubs voted for the ACA bill. I take heart from that.
These bills become history documenting the Democratic efforts to block and correct the MAGA/Republicans.. They also become the basis for bills to be introduced in the next Congress when they are in the majority. A baseline to be improved upon.
That is not actually true. Just look at what Mitch McConnell accomplished during Obama's administration. They can do a lot more than that they are doing to obstruct this regime. Especially in the Senate. And the house has such a razor thin majority now that they really should be able to accomplish more than they are. They just have to keep those discharge petitions coming.
Johnson doesn't allow votes. It's happened more than once. We've never had the bullshit Congress we have now
This is correct and we need to recognize it.
What he accomplished was obstruction. Democrats proposed bills, he obstructed. So what more do you think Democrats can do other than obsctruction? Please explain based on actual, real-life Senate procedure., not on wishful thinking.
Obstruction may be all that they can do right now, but it's still better than doing nothing but strongly worded letters and social media posts.
They are doing all of that. I see a lot of very strong. pushback, and even some battles they are winning.
The night Obama was elected in 2008 McConnell and his cronies met to put together their obstructionist agenda.
Yes, he said his one goal was "to make Obama a one-term president."
McConnell was able to "accomplish" that because the Rethuglicans controlled the Senate.
Exactly. Nothing advances unless Republicans OK it, and by blaming Democrats, we increase the chances they stay in power. This is why I've come to despise the horseshoe left.
Trying to understand what the point is you are trying to make, especially given the circumstances. Could you explain it to me?
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they do have SOME power, in the appropriations bill, and in shaping narratives. They could make a stand and not fund a government that's terrorizing its people.
I think Stephen Miller is the worst because I think he is running immigration and the foreign actions that will eventually put us into a World War. But the whole regime is up for the worst person in the world trophy
I think Miller is running everything and is the shadow president. They're all awful
I agree!
Democrats have not "refused to make an issue" of ICE, spending and otherwise. Our weakness — and why they get away with it — is too many of us immediately turn around and blame those on our side. What "power" do you think we actually have ink the minority? Did you not see Little Mike Johnson actually cancelling congress for almost two months to avoid the release of the Epstein files? We self-sabotage at every turn. They double down no matter what.
We also have to carefully vet our Dems in office to make sure they are not enabling this fascist regime to continue their reign of terror, like Dem congressman Ritchie Toress from the Bronx who voted in favor of the Lincoln Riley Act that removed due process from detained immigrants and has invested in companies selling arms to Israel.
Ritchie Torres' voting record is overall pretty progressive though. He's ranked #88 with a progressive voting record over 92%. He's no Jamie Raskin but he's a pretty solid progressive. I always worry about attaching too much important to a handful of votes — and if they have ANYTHING to do with Israel or Palestine, I discard them entirely. There's too much emotion and obfuscation around that. I keep hearing my own congresswoman, who is ultra-progressive, getting attacked by "pro-Palestine" people.
Again, I am referring to Jeffries and Schmuer doing just that. It is not self-sabotage to demand better:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/democrats-ice-shooting-minnesota-funding-b2896967.html?callback=in&code=OWQ5NWEWMDCTZJLJMC0ZYJVHLTG0ZMITNTK1N2JIM2I4ZTG4&state=ea11a79a15e94e6685f82be7f822efbb
The Catholic Church has now called Vance "a moral stain on the Catholic Church." Speaking of stains.
I think it's fairly obvious he didn't convert to Catholicism at the age of 35 because of some deep seated religious experience but because he realized that there was a powerful base of rightwing influence there (the Federalist Society, Opus Dei etc).
Yes, no doubt they pulled him aside as Peter Thiel's hand-picked and funded senator, and told him what they could do for him...if he was Catholic.
Why Catholic, specifically?
This is not a sanctioned branch of Roman Catholics, but a renegade branch of highly conservative and reactionary people using their "Catholicism" to bolster their sense of them selves as superior. My understanding is that the actual Church refuses to recognize them as part of its body.
Thanks for explaining. In other words, they are a**h****.
I agree with you on his late conversion. My only question is whether the maga christian nationalists will accept him. KKK traditionally hates Catholics and Jews.
I knew Spiro Agnew and JD, you’re no Spiro Agnew.
"Vance promised to go after “left-leaning” organizations" which he can't define. Let me help here. He's looking for all of us that know right from wrong.
Sometimes you wonder why he doesn't just say "Pick your side: Ours or theirs."
Anne Applebaum provides a useful insight for something like this.
If someone looks you straight in the eye and tells you a lie that you BOTH know is a lie, as well as that you BOTH know that the OTHER person knows it is a lie, it isn't to convince you of anything or to prove anything. It is an exercise of power. The liar in such a case is saying "We both know that this is a lie, but YOU can't do anything about it." Truth? Evidence? Facts? Videotapes? Witnesses? None of that matters because the liar is demonstrating that they can cram the lie down your throat whether or not you go along with it.
Mike Brock had a similar argument today. When you drop an F-bomb after they murder one of your citizens and then they want to make YOU apologize!? Wow, that's deflecting from the issue and insisting on deference. Kudos to MN mayor Frey. Don't apologize for your outrage, REPEAT IT. Make them explain themselves!
Those so-called christians (who are really christian nationalists) who get the vapors at hearing the f-bomb, but eagerly accept violence, make me sick.
Absolutely no one in this country should be offended by the proper and heartfelt use of a curse word. Get over it, it's the 21st century, these words are used frequently in the common vernacular, and your oh so delicate sensibilities are complete bullshit.
Apparently in the rap world that is known as "fuckery". I just learned that yesterday. It completely applies on this situation. With the entire regime.
It's a display of dominance.
Yup. Or an attempt at one anyway.
And that seems to make it nearly impossible to respond to.
You can still respond with the facts--over and over again. Cannot be silent.
I wish the Pope would excommunicate him.
That would be awesome!
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Excommunication is a process and not a pronouncement by the pope. The Code of Canon Law (CIC) nine sins carry the penalty of automatic excommunication: apostasy, heresy, schism, abortion (CIC 1364:1), violating the sacred species (CIC 1382), physically attacking the pope (CIC 1370:1), consecrating a bishop without authorization (CIC 1387), and directly violating the seal of confession (1386:1).
Some sins are unforgivable.
No sin is unforgivable by God. But men are not gods and we mark many among the unforgiven. IMO
I find Vance even more disgusting than Trump. He really is the lowest of the low in bottom feeders!
YES!!! Vance is smart, Ivy league educated and knows better That's what makes him so despicable - like Hawley and Cruz.
And Tom Cotton and Ron DeathSatan, and Brett Kavanaugh and John Roberts and Neil Gorsuch and Clarence Thomas...
Mitch McConnell
He didn't go to an Ivy League school though. He went to the University of Kentucky.
Yay, someone else knows Ron DeathSatan! I am not alone!
He is so repulsive he will never be president.
He can't even fake being human, that clip in Japan where they so politely asked him about his fuckery with Disney, where he just glitched out like a defective android was glorious.
But Marco Rubio is down there with him.
So when Vance said “it’s something we have to figure out” (about the left-leaning organization she was a member). He meant, “it’s something we have to manufacture.”
Bingo
I am a proud member of the grantifas.
As I’ve said for years, only Trump can do Trump, and Trump dies with Trump. JD Vance is all the cruelty with none of the brand or charm. If Trump weren’t a playboy and TV star, he’d be in exile already. Vance…well, he’s not a TV star.
I hope this is right. I think it is right.
Vance is just smarmy. Talk to any MAGA and have them emote. Almost none will say a thing about Vance but Trump is a God-send.
Trump is the brand. With Trump gone, the brand dies. His kids don’t have the juice, either. Not one of them.
Yes! And I’ve heard that many Magats hate Vance. They wanted Doug Burgum for VP and are still pissed at Dumpty for passing him over. (Burgum’s consolation prize was being appointed Secretary of the Interior, where he is of course wreaking havoc.)
I believe that wholeheartedly. There is no upside to following Vance. I don’t see the pull Trump has and I hardly understand it, but Vance is just plain creepy, with zero charisma or character. He can’t live the lifestyle Trump does, which seems to be what many MAGAs admire, everyone knows JD is lying when he speaks, but with Trump, his base believes every word out of his mouth. I don’t see the brand continuing either.
I see Trump’s charm. My wife and I watched “The Apprentice” for years. I get it. I mean, not “he should be President!” but “I get why people like watching him”.
JD Vance has literally none of this. He’s your asshole brother-in-law.
He's amusing (in an often perverse way). People like watching him to see what ludicrous, lunatic thing he'll say or do. Many of his antics that the left condemns or makes fun of are very appealing to his followers.
And with Vance we get none of that, so there goes the allure for the MAGAs.
Basically
Yes, and we all know that America is deeply in love with TV stars. How else do you explain the fascination with the Kardashians?
Because they want to be the Kartrashians, (that is to say rich, and vapid).
Fingers crossed!
Except remember when people thought Trump was a joke and could never get elected once, never mind twice! Scary to think Vance could be on the same trajectory
I highly doubt Don the Con was ever “elected.”
At this point, that is an irrelevant argument. What matters is doing whatever it takes to stop what this administration is doing. We can't fix the past, but we might be able to shape our future.
Sadly, he was twice, once legitimately (2024) and once because of our damned foolish electoral college (2016).
Color me very skeptical. He had major help both times.
The "help" he had was from state Republican officials making it harder to vote, a "both siding" media that held Clinton and Harris to a radically different standard than Trump and, in 2024, holier-than-thou far left people who said they were "teaching Democrats a lesson." As far as actual manipulation in the voting process, that didn't happen and can;'t happen as the system exists now, although the GOP has tried here and there to change it. We need to look at what is REALLY happening and work against that, not promote scary fantasies.
Trump always had celebrity and public fascination on his side. He had people who perceived him, rightly or wrongly, as a successful business man. And he has some weird charisma where his followers perceive him as strong, tough and manly. Vance has none of that — zip, zero, nada. And he's not going to produce it out of thin air.
Yes, I am aware. And I agree. I am just saying, you never know, and whoever follows him we need to go after. No complacency ever!
That's why I'm moving to Mexico before I even have to watch that train wreck occur in slow motion. I'll still vote for whomever the Democratic candidate is of course, even if I have to come back to do it.
I learned yesterday that not all Dems are going to take action. Case in point...Dem Congressman Ritchie Toress from the Bronx. He voted in favor of the Lincoln Riley act that eliminates the right to due process for immigrants detained by ICE. In addition, he has invested in companies selling arms to Israel. Not all Dems are created equal. Takes some vetting.
He says he's going to invade Mexico.
I know. It's pretty disturbing.
It baffles me that so many people still believe all the lies coming from this admin.
Why they believe the lies and propaganda is partially due to Basic Cult Behavior/Mob Mentality 101. Those explain both but do not excuse either. After that you have to remember that a majority of maga are willingly, even gleefully, maga because they hold the same vile, disgusting racist, misogynistic, homophobic, transphobic and bigoted beliefs as trump, vance and miller et al do - right down the line.
They are also completely and utterly brainwashed by far right media who can spin any event better than my washing machine.
True. The right does have a vigorous propaganda department.
Jay
A worthy target for self-care outrage. Would you please consider doing a piece on the likelihood of legal repercussions for the shooter? There are so many scenarios in which nothing happens. Could you tell us what the legal probabilities are?
Thanks so much every day!!
Im looking into this bug there are many moving parts
I thoroughly enjoy hearing your validation of my sentiments. However, I rarely hear outrage from the right. I email my Republican senator fairly regularly about his choices during these times. I always get a decent form letter back. I figure it’s one of the few things that I can do. Thank you.
I email all all three of my republicon reps here in Ohio. I get the same old, tired form letter back every time from former used car salesman Senator Bernie Moreno. "Thank you for your email. I want to know what Ohioans care about...blah, blah, blah". Worthless. Once in a while I get a more specific response from Senator Husted, but his response to the illegal invasion of Venezuela was filled with talking points from the republicon script, "...drugs, bad man, blah, blah, blah." I get no response from my Congressman Dave Joyce, a moderate, who has chosen to hide in a foxhole and not make statements or respond to emails.