Honestly, this is all so exhausting, it's a constant cortisol rush. And the red "igits" are counting on it. If I didn't live in the middle of it all (yep, I'm in a deeply red state), I would not believe how people can be so dumb. But yep, dumb. And willfully so (which means stupid to be blunt). Keep us going, Jay. You and HCR are my sanity's saving graces.
If I didn’t know better I’d think this was SNL. It’s difficult to believe these are adults or that they acted like this to get elected and people voted for this sort of character. Actually “high school” was in this story and I’d have to say it’s more like Jr High but in fairness, it is insulting to our young people who I believe behave much better than these @“&#^>£@
I’m really don’t believe they are all dumb. I think that trump validates their less than nice selves. They identify with his racism, misogyny, hatred, anger, cruelty and/or general unpleasantness. It’s who they are on the inside. Either that or they all drank the
Oh Lani, if you lived in TN, you'd see dumb. But yes, I agree, the orange fool validates their real inside selves and thoughts. But I also see a giant Kook-Aid pitcher available and well used here, too.
You are probably right but I am exceedingly grateful to live in Vermont. We still have too many trump supporters but many are moving south. Two of my neighbors left recently. 😊
Also a long-time TN resident, the stupid runs deep here. Lani, I have t disagree. In order to influence the not-so-nice they have to be persuadable, cult material and that does not indicate educated, intelligent or well-read.
This revenge impeachment talk is getting old. I mean she started it from day 1, how could they have any evidence to impeach on day 1? All because the big orange criminal was impeached? I do love this quote, perfectly sums up how much MTG really knows about anything:
“When I was teaching law school, I learned and taught certain constitutional principles,” Buck responded. “When Marjorie Taylor Greene was teaching CrossFit, she learned a whole different set of values.”
Dear God. This makes my head hurt. To say I'm sick of this crap would be an understatement. That these imbeciles could hold rational people hostage and prevent progress towards a greater good is mind numbing. I believe when they shut down the government, the GOP will essentially be over.
The ironic thing is, so much of their base is okay with shutting down the government because they don’t understand how truly dependent upon it they are.
To make this kind of stupid political play--for the Yapping Yam, it's all about "the optics" and revenge-- in a election year.....oh yeah, that turkey will come home to roost--bigly.
MAGA extremists are fond of wielding this "motion to vacate the chair" as a threat, but in reality they don't have the votes to carry through, unless Democrats provide them. And that's a coalition we'll never see. So long as Kevin McCarthy remains Speaker, we'll continue to have these periodic "crises" initiated by a faction within the House whose only intent is to obstruct and disrupt.
On the other hand, a coalition of moderate Republicans and Democrats could remove Mr. McCarthy and elect a centrist like Don Bacon (R-NE) who owes nothing to MAGA and is committed to governing responsibly.
A network of ordinary citizens has been working to bring this about since January. Everyone who values an orderly functioning House of Representatives is encouraged to pitch in.
That isn't exactly accurate, Jay. There have been no votes "against" a sitting Speaker. The election of a Speaker consists only of votes "for" one candidate or another.
What is accurate is that historically, Democrats vote for a Democrat and Republicans vote for a Republican to become Speaker. This is different. A motion to vacate the chair requires an active vote for or against the motion to remove. Only if it passes would there be a vote to elect a new Speaker.
Here's another difference:
MAGA extremists in the House are not ordinary politicians. They're not just another minority voting bloc like libertarians, or even the Tea Party. The MAGA faction supports and identifies with January 6 conspirators, and speaks openly and proudly of a coming civil war. Their intent is to obstruct and disrupt, not to legislate. They actively wanted a U.S. debt default, and now they actively want to shutdown the government. They are a threat to the institution itself.
During the marathon voting for Speaker in January, the idea of a bipartisan coalition to elect a compromise candidate was under serious consideration until McCarthy finally made enough concessions to eke out a victory. Now that we've had 8 months of MAGA dominance in the chamber, with their complete disdain for the norms and procedures of the House, we at FeathersofHope.net believe the time is ripe to reconsider that option.
Progressive Democrats are generally reluctant to admit it, but only Republicans themselves can stop MAGA extremism. That’s partly what makes the task such a massive lift, as you say. Distasteful as it may be, empowering moderate Republicans is probably the most effective way to protect the House of Representatives from a very real threat coming from within.
It is so fucking discouraging that these infantile idiots are capable of threatening not just the United States, but the whole of the free world. It would be very enlightening to be able to follow the money and the social media accounts that support them. I would bet cash money that many lead indirectly back to Putin.
Speaking of Putin, Jay, whatever became of Robert Mueller and his long-forgotten statement that he could have indicted Trump if Trump had not been President?
We’d have to ask Merrick Garland why Trump wasn’t indicted after leaving office. It was his call to make. My sense is that he probably knew there were bigger issues that the 2016 obstruction that were already under investigation.
Not for the first--actually for the nth--time I find myself thinking we have gone through the looking glass and are in an alternate universe. Taxpayer money, including mine, is paying these insane people to create public spectacles demonstrating their bottomless stupidity. Meanwhile the climate emergency marches on, destroying the present and likely rendering the future one without humans. If we're gone, won't matter who was woke and who was MAGA. Won't matter which religion you followed or how you voted. Dead is dead; extinct is extinct. I comfort myself with the thought that tardigrades and extremophiles, not to mention jellyfish and cockroaches, are tough and adaptable. Life will continue. Too bad some of us are so eager to kick humanity off the bus.
“We need a very tedious impeachment inquiry that allows us to take a deep dive to uncover the traitors within that conspired together.” --MTG
My first question is, did MTG even go to high school? “Conspire together” is akin to saying, “Hi, I’m from the US Department of Redundancy Department.”
Mandy Patinkin as Inigo Montoya to Wallace Shawn (I forget his character's name) in the Princess Bride. One of my favorite quotations to deploy. The word was "inconceivable," and that feels painfully apt in this conversation.
Well, since McCarthy just announced that he is "directing our House committees to open a formal impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden", I guess we're headed right in to the full-on crazy. I suppose he's been counting noses and figured out there's no other way he can get a CR.
and yeah. the Donald won't like it if things don't get rapidly into high gear, with a vote...
OMG and even worse is the number of crazies willing to vote for impeachment even with lack of evidence. You impeached ours, we'll impeach yours. When did impeachment become a political tool and not a truly serious matter? I know with all the crazies calling the shots that is a retorical question. The whole thing is mind numbing
true. But he was impeached for lying under oath about it not for the act itself. And the affair was with an intern which in itself was wrong. So there was at least something there to go after unlike what these crazies are trying to pull out of thin air.
The affair, while certainly distasteful and cringey, would never have come to light if the Rs had been able to show some wrongdoing in Whitewater. And who led the outrage but that paragon of virtue, Newt Gingrich, who didn't pay child support to his children, served divorce papers on his wife while she was in the hospital recovering from cancer surgery, and was carrying on an affair of his own while clutching his pearls over Clinton.
I'm not arguing the right or wrong with the initial investigation or whatever led up to him lying under oath. There are certainly plenty of slimey people in DC who are hypocrites. I'm just saying his impeachment, not necessarily what lead to it, at least had some merit even if weak.
It became a political tool when the Yapping Yam got impeached. Twice.
The Yam is nothing if not a vindictive, revengeful moron. The Yam's mentor in all things evil, Roy Cohn, always told him: "when you're hit; punch back even harder...".
Oh for sure. It's sad that right now the House is all about revenge and not at all about what they are hired to do. All because the yapping yam (which is great BTW) is a blow hard with a cult following.
The Republicans have completely forgotten that their purpose in government is to REPRESENT their constituents and to create laws that will HELP make their lives better. They have forgotten how to write legislation and how to actually govern.
The R's are terrified of losing their "yt male Xtian" status & power and have gone on a bender of revenge and political theatrics to keep the power, which will consequently slide ever more quickly thru their fingers (to paraphrase a dreadful-but true- line from "Star Wars").
He's opening an inquiry because he doesn't have the votes to actually impeach Biden. It's just such a waste of time and the average American has no idea what's happening.
“When I was teaching law school, I learned and taught certain constitutional principles,” Buck responded. “When Marjorie Taylor Greene was teaching CrossFit, she learned a whole different set of values.”)
Could you make a clearer statement about the class struggle within the GOP? Greene, the self-appointed leader of the chip-on-the-shoulder class vs the guys with law degrees who, nonetheless, capitulated to Trump thus enabling the gold rush to power from those whose ambitions have been simmering for years. The blowback from that decision will haunt them forever.
This is the first and only time I have ever felt anything even remotely approaching admiration for Ken Buck. That remark was awesome. I really hope she felt the sting but I fear she's too dumb and too obstinate for it to matter. As for Buck, color me shocked. He's usually as obstreperous as the rest of his party of idiots.
I think Greene knows what she's doing. She's self-consciously battling the suits for recognition, a task made easier by decentralized fundraising and leadership that has emphasized donor wishes (see McConnell, Mitch) over the angry cross-fit class. She's found her niche but will she exploit it or merely join the power structure that now welcomes her? It's amazing how a little power can melt that chip on her shoulder.
As for Buck, I think he's reading the tea leaves in Colorado which ain't Georgia.
The crazy is strong in the GQP, especially with the miscreants in the House. McCarthy is such a worthless "leader", he deserves all the pain he's going through . . .
Hopefully there will be enough of the House GQP that realizes that they took an oath to the country, not the Q-Anon fanatics and Cheetolini and they need to approve the budget deal that was agreed upon months ago.
Honestly, this is all so exhausting, it's a constant cortisol rush. And the red "igits" are counting on it. If I didn't live in the middle of it all (yep, I'm in a deeply red state), I would not believe how people can be so dumb. But yep, dumb. And willfully so (which means stupid to be blunt). Keep us going, Jay. You and HCR are my sanity's saving graces.
If I didn’t know better I’d think this was SNL. It’s difficult to believe these are adults or that they acted like this to get elected and people voted for this sort of character. Actually “high school” was in this story and I’d have to say it’s more like Jr High but in fairness, it is insulting to our young people who I believe behave much better than these @“&#^>£@
I’m really don’t believe they are all dumb. I think that trump validates their less than nice selves. They identify with his racism, misogyny, hatred, anger, cruelty and/or general unpleasantness. It’s who they are on the inside. Either that or they all drank the
Kool-aid.
Oh Lani, if you lived in TN, you'd see dumb. But yes, I agree, the orange fool validates their real inside selves and thoughts. But I also see a giant Kook-Aid pitcher available and well used here, too.
You are probably right but I am exceedingly grateful to live in Vermont. We still have too many trump supporters but many are moving south. Two of my neighbors left recently. 😊
I sure hope they’re not moving to NC! We’ve got enough trouble.
Probably heading here (FL) to join the rest of trump and Disantis cult 🙄
I feel your pain, my sister. 😘
Also a long-time TN resident, the stupid runs deep here. Lani, I have t disagree. In order to influence the not-so-nice they have to be persuadable, cult material and that does not indicate educated, intelligent or well-read.
Another vote for lack of critical skills from deep red Idaho. Stupidity & hate/rage both play big parts from what I see here.
I agree 👍
The House GQP constantly demonstrates that you can't fix stupid.
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McCarthy is lying. He had no friends in high school.
Good one.
😂😂
That was my first thought when I read that sentence. LOL
This revenge impeachment talk is getting old. I mean she started it from day 1, how could they have any evidence to impeach on day 1? All because the big orange criminal was impeached? I do love this quote, perfectly sums up how much MTG really knows about anything:
“When I was teaching law school, I learned and taught certain constitutional principles,” Buck responded. “When Marjorie Taylor Greene was teaching CrossFit, she learned a whole different set of values.”
I loved that too! Kinda mean, but yeah!!
Maybe a little mean but MTG is not exactly the epitomy of kindness LOL
Or brains
Truth
Yep
Dear God. This makes my head hurt. To say I'm sick of this crap would be an understatement. That these imbeciles could hold rational people hostage and prevent progress towards a greater good is mind numbing. I believe when they shut down the government, the GOP will essentially be over.
The ironic thing is, so much of their base is okay with shutting down the government because they don’t understand how truly dependent upon it they are.
Yes… and while they take their time figuring it out we will all suffer. 🙄
I hope you are right!
I think you could have a good bet going.
To make this kind of stupid political play--for the Yapping Yam, it's all about "the optics" and revenge-- in a election year.....oh yeah, that turkey will come home to roost--bigly.
MAGA extremists are fond of wielding this "motion to vacate the chair" as a threat, but in reality they don't have the votes to carry through, unless Democrats provide them. And that's a coalition we'll never see. So long as Kevin McCarthy remains Speaker, we'll continue to have these periodic "crises" initiated by a faction within the House whose only intent is to obstruct and disrupt.
On the other hand, a coalition of moderate Republicans and Democrats could remove Mr. McCarthy and elect a centrist like Don Bacon (R-NE) who owes nothing to MAGA and is committed to governing responsibly.
A network of ordinary citizens has been working to bring this about since January. Everyone who values an orderly functioning House of Representatives is encouraged to pitch in.
Learn more here: https://www.FeathersOfHope.net , or here: www.jerryweiss.substack.com
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Historically, the Democrats will always vote against a sitting speaker for the other party, so in theory they would have the votes to unseat McCarthy.
That isn't exactly accurate, Jay. There have been no votes "against" a sitting Speaker. The election of a Speaker consists only of votes "for" one candidate or another.
What is accurate is that historically, Democrats vote for a Democrat and Republicans vote for a Republican to become Speaker. This is different. A motion to vacate the chair requires an active vote for or against the motion to remove. Only if it passes would there be a vote to elect a new Speaker.
Here's another difference:
MAGA extremists in the House are not ordinary politicians. They're not just another minority voting bloc like libertarians, or even the Tea Party. The MAGA faction supports and identifies with January 6 conspirators, and speaks openly and proudly of a coming civil war. Their intent is to obstruct and disrupt, not to legislate. They actively wanted a U.S. debt default, and now they actively want to shutdown the government. They are a threat to the institution itself.
During the marathon voting for Speaker in January, the idea of a bipartisan coalition to elect a compromise candidate was under serious consideration until McCarthy finally made enough concessions to eke out a victory. Now that we've had 8 months of MAGA dominance in the chamber, with their complete disdain for the norms and procedures of the House, we at FeathersofHope.net believe the time is ripe to reconsider that option.
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I’m curious about this—it sounds interesting. A functional Republican Party sounds like a massive lift.
Check us out, Peggy, especially this post: https://jerryweiss.substack.com/p/if-mccarthys-out-whos-in
Progressive Democrats are generally reluctant to admit it, but only Republicans themselves can stop MAGA extremism. That’s partly what makes the task such a massive lift, as you say. Distasteful as it may be, empowering moderate Republicans is probably the most effective way to protect the House of Representatives from a very real threat coming from within.
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Spot on. They don't have the votes - and no one else will seriously step up to replace him.
It is so fucking discouraging that these infantile idiots are capable of threatening not just the United States, but the whole of the free world. It would be very enlightening to be able to follow the money and the social media accounts that support them. I would bet cash money that many lead indirectly back to Putin.
Speaking of Putin, Jay, whatever became of Robert Mueller and his long-forgotten statement that he could have indicted Trump if Trump had not been President?
We’d have to ask Merrick Garland why Trump wasn’t indicted after leaving office. It was his call to make. My sense is that he probably knew there were bigger issues that the 2016 obstruction that were already under investigation.
Not for the first--actually for the nth--time I find myself thinking we have gone through the looking glass and are in an alternate universe. Taxpayer money, including mine, is paying these insane people to create public spectacles demonstrating their bottomless stupidity. Meanwhile the climate emergency marches on, destroying the present and likely rendering the future one without humans. If we're gone, won't matter who was woke and who was MAGA. Won't matter which religion you followed or how you voted. Dead is dead; extinct is extinct. I comfort myself with the thought that tardigrades and extremophiles, not to mention jellyfish and cockroaches, are tough and adaptable. Life will continue. Too bad some of us are so eager to kick humanity off the bus.
“We need a very tedious impeachment inquiry that allows us to take a deep dive to uncover the traitors within that conspired together.” --MTG
My first question is, did MTG even go to high school? “Conspire together” is akin to saying, “Hi, I’m from the US Department of Redundancy Department.”
All those steroids are likely impairing what little brain function she had to begin with.
Tedious was the right word but I don’t think that’s what she meant.
Or to quote somebody I forget, “I don’t think that word means what you think it means.”
Mandy Patinkin as Inigo Montoya to Wallace Shawn (I forget his character's name) in the Princess Bride. One of my favorite quotations to deploy. The word was "inconceivable," and that feels painfully apt in this conversation.
I could be wrong, but I don’t think McCarthy and his band of nitwits will play well with Independents. So I think their time at the top will be brief.
They are not doing well. The 2022 midterms should have been a red wave. It was a red piddle.
The waters in Libya passing through villages was brief.
Let's hope
The way that MTG is hugging Kevin, I can’t tell if she’s going to stick the knife into his back or his belly... 😁
Et tu, Marjorie?
😂🤣😂
LOL labeling the party as “Q”. It resonates with Q anon, and the impetuous, childish character Q from Star Trek, Jean Luc Picard’s recurring nemesis.
Just those two conspiracy theorists…
Very clever headline LOL
Very VERY clever.
Well, since McCarthy just announced that he is "directing our House committees to open a formal impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden", I guess we're headed right in to the full-on crazy. I suppose he's been counting noses and figured out there's no other way he can get a CR.
and yeah. the Donald won't like it if things don't get rapidly into high gear, with a vote...
My piece’s timing was interesting
OMG and even worse is the number of crazies willing to vote for impeachment even with lack of evidence. You impeached ours, we'll impeach yours. When did impeachment become a political tool and not a truly serious matter? I know with all the crazies calling the shots that is a retorical question. The whole thing is mind numbing
Started with Clinton and a BJ
true. But he was impeached for lying under oath about it not for the act itself. And the affair was with an intern which in itself was wrong. So there was at least something there to go after unlike what these crazies are trying to pull out of thin air.
The affair, while certainly distasteful and cringey, would never have come to light if the Rs had been able to show some wrongdoing in Whitewater. And who led the outrage but that paragon of virtue, Newt Gingrich, who didn't pay child support to his children, served divorce papers on his wife while she was in the hospital recovering from cancer surgery, and was carrying on an affair of his own while clutching his pearls over Clinton.
I'm not arguing the right or wrong with the initial investigation or whatever led up to him lying under oath. There are certainly plenty of slimey people in DC who are hypocrites. I'm just saying his impeachment, not necessarily what lead to it, at least had some merit even if weak.
What a concept - impeached for lying.......
...under oath. Perjury was the actual charge.
It became a political tool when the Yapping Yam got impeached. Twice.
The Yam is nothing if not a vindictive, revengeful moron. The Yam's mentor in all things evil, Roy Cohn, always told him: "when you're hit; punch back even harder...".
Oh for sure. It's sad that right now the House is all about revenge and not at all about what they are hired to do. All because the yapping yam (which is great BTW) is a blow hard with a cult following.
The Republicans have completely forgotten that their purpose in government is to REPRESENT their constituents and to create laws that will HELP make their lives better. They have forgotten how to write legislation and how to actually govern.
The R's are terrified of losing their "yt male Xtian" status & power and have gone on a bender of revenge and political theatrics to keep the power, which will consequently slide ever more quickly thru their fingers (to paraphrase a dreadful-but true- line from "Star Wars").
I completely agree.
He's opening an inquiry because he doesn't have the votes to actually impeach Biden. It's just such a waste of time and the average American has no idea what's happening.
“When I was teaching law school, I learned and taught certain constitutional principles,” Buck responded. “When Marjorie Taylor Greene was teaching CrossFit, she learned a whole different set of values.”)
Could you make a clearer statement about the class struggle within the GOP? Greene, the self-appointed leader of the chip-on-the-shoulder class vs the guys with law degrees who, nonetheless, capitulated to Trump thus enabling the gold rush to power from those whose ambitions have been simmering for years. The blowback from that decision will haunt them forever.
This is the first and only time I have ever felt anything even remotely approaching admiration for Ken Buck. That remark was awesome. I really hope she felt the sting but I fear she's too dumb and too obstinate for it to matter. As for Buck, color me shocked. He's usually as obstreperous as the rest of his party of idiots.
I think Greene knows what she's doing. She's self-consciously battling the suits for recognition, a task made easier by decentralized fundraising and leadership that has emphasized donor wishes (see McConnell, Mitch) over the angry cross-fit class. She's found her niche but will she exploit it or merely join the power structure that now welcomes her? It's amazing how a little power can melt that chip on her shoulder.
As for Buck, I think he's reading the tea leaves in Colorado which ain't Georgia.
The crazy is strong in the GQP, especially with the miscreants in the House. McCarthy is such a worthless "leader", he deserves all the pain he's going through . . .
Hopefully there will be enough of the House GQP that realizes that they took an oath to the country, not the Q-Anon fanatics and Cheetolini and they need to approve the budget deal that was agreed upon months ago.
I. AM. SO. OVER. THE GOP! and their senseless vindictive ways! So many life threatening issues to resolve! #ENOUGH!