Many who watched the January 6 hearing last night are asking the same thing: While the hearing was compelling factually and emotionally, what legal impact did it have? In other words, assuming federal and Georgia prosecutors are watching, what were they looking for, and did they see any of it last night?
This is the time for SOMEONE with a backbone to stop this man. He has lived his whole life doing what he wants, when he wants with no consequences for inappropriate behavior. Just look back through his childhood, his time at the private military style high school in upstate NY, his bullying behavior through his business years and on and on and on. In 2016 people wanted a change in voting, didn't support Clinton, so they decided to try Trump. Enter the con man who led a lot of good people down a rabbit hole with the sole goal of enriching himself and the country be damned. Now it will be hard for these good people to admit they were duped. If he announces another run for the Presidency, it will only be because it gives him the ability to con people out of their money for his "presidential run". I beg the Department of Justice to do their job and make sure this small, small man NEVER is able to run for any office ever again....and jail time should be on the table as well.
I've pointed out in a previous comment that, in my view, the committee has neglected an important fact that shows both intent and considerable planning and preparation: the Pence gallows. To me, that's an elephant in the room, and I have no idea why it has been ignored.
But another huge factor that I can only assume the committee has deliberately avoided - perhaps so as not to appear too conjectural in sticking to the facts - is that any reasonable person, knowing the donald's narcissistic nature, must assume that while watching the insurrection live on TV and barely communicating with anyone other than Giuliani, he was simply enthralled in the adulation, reveling in his power, and enraptured. Sure that's circumstantial and psychological conjecture, but what else could have been going through his mind as he deliberately chose not to act to stop it? Is there any alternative interpretation that could defend or even explain his three hour delay? He was bathing in the glow, mesmerized!
Jay Kuo, if this does go to a jury trial how will they find 12 jurors without one of them being a Trumper? Seems like an impossible task to me. I hope I am wrong.
Jay, thanks for bearing down on criminal intent. Per the Federal Jury Instruction No: 2167, 18 USC Section 1956 (H), " a conspiracy is an agreement between 2 or more people to join together to join together to ATTEMPT (emphasis added) to accomplish some unlawful purpose.". As the Hearing last night made succinctly clear, as Trump was calling Co-conspirators for 187 minutes, VP Pence was calling military authorities & Others to thwart the widespread Attack as his Team was calling their Loved Ones. The Only requirement for prospective Jurors is a non-prejudicial beating Heart.
What hasn’t anyone mentioned (or did I miss mention of it?) the January 4, 2021 (2 days prior to the insurrection) memo from Acting Sec of Defense Christopher Miller which basically rendered the DC National Guard to nothing more than very benign crowd control and crossing guards??????? The memo outlines what Miller prohibits the DCNG from doing:
1) no weapons or protective gear for head/body,
2) no interaction with “protestors” except in dire self defense,
3) DCNG couldn’t use helicopters or any sort of air assets,
4) couldn’t employ any sort of riot control agents,
5) couldn’t share equipment with law enforcement agencies,
6) couldn’t use intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance (ISR) assets or conduct ISR, or incident, awareness, and assessments activities,
7) couldn’t conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity,
8) couldn’t seek support from any non DCNG units.
Google the memo. I have a screenshot of it, but cannot upload it here. This explains why there weren’t any arrests on JAN6, why there wasn’t any quick support/reinforcements to the police being assaulted, and shows premeditative measures put into place to support the insurrectionists.
All true. And why is it that McCarthy, McConnell, and others who condemned *trump now have either backtracked totally or just keep silent (McConnell insists he would SUPPORT him again if he were to run in 2024!)? Power, pure and simple. They had assumed that the insurrection would have flushed *trump down the toilet - as it should have! - but since his base still has backed him and *trump has actually become the de facto head of the party (at least for now) these chumps figure they can't afford not to back him up - especially McCarthy, who'd banking on becoming Speaker. Power is the name of the game, especially when their base sees themselves as victims getting revenge, and this is the only thing that motivates Republicans.
I don't see Garland having the backbone to go after Trump. Once again, the Teflon Don wins. Our democracy is in deep peril, and there is no one willing to rock the boat. Sad.
trumps insane ...I have been saying this since you all elected him ...I am only an old 85 yr old Canadian but I dont know why you cant see this look at how he talks ...babbles poses mispronunces simple words ...25th should have been called on him years ago
This is the time for SOMEONE with a backbone to stop this man. He has lived his whole life doing what he wants, when he wants with no consequences for inappropriate behavior. Just look back through his childhood, his time at the private military style high school in upstate NY, his bullying behavior through his business years and on and on and on. In 2016 people wanted a change in voting, didn't support Clinton, so they decided to try Trump. Enter the con man who led a lot of good people down a rabbit hole with the sole goal of enriching himself and the country be damned. Now it will be hard for these good people to admit they were duped. If he announces another run for the Presidency, it will only be because it gives him the ability to con people out of their money for his "presidential run". I beg the Department of Justice to do their job and make sure this small, small man NEVER is able to run for any office ever again....and jail time should be on the table as well.
I've pointed out in a previous comment that, in my view, the committee has neglected an important fact that shows both intent and considerable planning and preparation: the Pence gallows. To me, that's an elephant in the room, and I have no idea why it has been ignored.
But another huge factor that I can only assume the committee has deliberately avoided - perhaps so as not to appear too conjectural in sticking to the facts - is that any reasonable person, knowing the donald's narcissistic nature, must assume that while watching the insurrection live on TV and barely communicating with anyone other than Giuliani, he was simply enthralled in the adulation, reveling in his power, and enraptured. Sure that's circumstantial and psychological conjecture, but what else could have been going through his mind as he deliberately chose not to act to stop it? Is there any alternative interpretation that could defend or even explain his three hour delay? He was bathing in the glow, mesmerized!
Jay Kuo, if this does go to a jury trial how will they find 12 jurors without one of them being a Trumper? Seems like an impossible task to me. I hope I am wrong.
Jay, thanks for bearing down on criminal intent. Per the Federal Jury Instruction No: 2167, 18 USC Section 1956 (H), " a conspiracy is an agreement between 2 or more people to join together to join together to ATTEMPT (emphasis added) to accomplish some unlawful purpose.". As the Hearing last night made succinctly clear, as Trump was calling Co-conspirators for 187 minutes, VP Pence was calling military authorities & Others to thwart the widespread Attack as his Team was calling their Loved Ones. The Only requirement for prospective Jurors is a non-prejudicial beating Heart.
What hasn’t anyone mentioned (or did I miss mention of it?) the January 4, 2021 (2 days prior to the insurrection) memo from Acting Sec of Defense Christopher Miller which basically rendered the DC National Guard to nothing more than very benign crowd control and crossing guards??????? The memo outlines what Miller prohibits the DCNG from doing:
1) no weapons or protective gear for head/body,
2) no interaction with “protestors” except in dire self defense,
3) DCNG couldn’t use helicopters or any sort of air assets,
4) couldn’t employ any sort of riot control agents,
5) couldn’t share equipment with law enforcement agencies,
6) couldn’t use intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance (ISR) assets or conduct ISR, or incident, awareness, and assessments activities,
7) couldn’t conduct searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity,
8) couldn’t seek support from any non DCNG units.
Google the memo. I have a screenshot of it, but cannot upload it here. This explains why there weren’t any arrests on JAN6, why there wasn’t any quick support/reinforcements to the police being assaulted, and shows premeditative measures put into place to support the insurrectionists.
All true. And why is it that McCarthy, McConnell, and others who condemned *trump now have either backtracked totally or just keep silent (McConnell insists he would SUPPORT him again if he were to run in 2024!)? Power, pure and simple. They had assumed that the insurrection would have flushed *trump down the toilet - as it should have! - but since his base still has backed him and *trump has actually become the de facto head of the party (at least for now) these chumps figure they can't afford not to back him up - especially McCarthy, who'd banking on becoming Speaker. Power is the name of the game, especially when their base sees themselves as victims getting revenge, and this is the only thing that motivates Republicans.
I don't see Garland having the backbone to go after Trump. Once again, the Teflon Don wins. Our democracy is in deep peril, and there is no one willing to rock the boat. Sad.
Besides indictment, what can be done , if anything, to prevent him from getting on the ballot?
trumps insane ...I have been saying this since you all elected him ...I am only an old 85 yr old Canadian but I dont know why you cant see this look at how he talks ...babbles poses mispronunces simple words ...25th should have been called on him years ago
This is absolutely astounding!! It was written so well, I had to keep taking breaks from reading and take deep breaths, intense!