The default that happened to Giuliani was very similar to the one declared against Alex Jones in several of the civil cases against him. Yes: that is a rare sanction (I saw it happen once in my practice of almost 30 years. Not to my client!). It is becoming more common because of the attitude of so many in the MAGA circle that the laws don't apply to them, including court orders.
The default that happened to Giuliani was very similar to the one declared against Alex Jones in several of the civil cases against him. Yes: that is a rare sanction (I saw it happen once in my practice of almost 30 years. Not to my client!). It is becoming more common because of the attitude of so many in the MAGA circle that the laws don't apply to them, including court orders.
yes. The weird thing is that for Jones, plaintiffs had dropped their claim of slander--the kids, of course, were dead. They were suing for outrage--intentional infliction of emotional distress. That is REALLY hard to prove. All Alex had to do was cooperate and he had a pretty fair chance of skating. Nope: the words "cut off your nose" and 'spite your face" come to mind.
Like you Susan I knew about this failure to comply with discovery sanction but in all my years as a trial attorney, the mere whiff of that threat by the judge always brought the party into compliance. And their counsel as well; no reasonable attorney wanted that damage to their reputation as well. I guess that was back in the day when one’s reputation in the trial bar counted for something.
well, here it was Alex himself refusing and Giuliani being a fool for a client. In my case, the attorney who generated the default later went to prison for bank fraud, so you can guess his level of competence. I was actually in house counsel for a surety. At one meeting (this was in our LA attorney's office) the guy refused to hand over the sign in sheet, saying he was keeping it "for my records." Our LA attorney had to call security to get the damn piece of paper back- after he had tried to grab it, and been dodged. That was one of the more interesting meetings of my career.
The default that happened to Giuliani was very similar to the one declared against Alex Jones in several of the civil cases against him. Yes: that is a rare sanction (I saw it happen once in my practice of almost 30 years. Not to my client!). It is becoming more common because of the attitude of so many in the MAGA circle that the laws don't apply to them, including court orders.
Ah, thanks for the reminder. Alex Jones and Rudy are seeming more and more similar these days, aren’t they?
yes. The weird thing is that for Jones, plaintiffs had dropped their claim of slander--the kids, of course, were dead. They were suing for outrage--intentional infliction of emotional distress. That is REALLY hard to prove. All Alex had to do was cooperate and he had a pretty fair chance of skating. Nope: the words "cut off your nose" and 'spite your face" come to mind.
Like you Susan I knew about this failure to comply with discovery sanction but in all my years as a trial attorney, the mere whiff of that threat by the judge always brought the party into compliance. And their counsel as well; no reasonable attorney wanted that damage to their reputation as well. I guess that was back in the day when one’s reputation in the trial bar counted for something.
well, here it was Alex himself refusing and Giuliani being a fool for a client. In my case, the attorney who generated the default later went to prison for bank fraud, so you can guess his level of competence. I was actually in house counsel for a surety. At one meeting (this was in our LA attorney's office) the guy refused to hand over the sign in sheet, saying he was keeping it "for my records." Our LA attorney had to call security to get the damn piece of paper back- after he had tried to grab it, and been dodged. That was one of the more interesting meetings of my career.
Good lord 🤦♀️
Just waiting on Rudy to file for bankruptcy.
He still has his 6 million dollar apartment...
I started saying that Rudy caught an Alex Jones judgement. I immediately thought of the crank behavior Jones engaged in.